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The term Native American.......why
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:39 am
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:39 am
Why do we use the term Native American for the various peoples that were in the Americas in 1492? This term is utter nonsense.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:41 am to ShortyRob
Tradition.
The fact is, they came from somewhere else too.
The fact is, they came from somewhere else too.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:42 am to ShortyRob
"We" (really "y'all" ) gave them beads for Manhattan Island.
I think it was originally "Naive Americans"....but, a clerical error / typo added the T
I think it was originally "Naive Americans"....but, a clerical error / typo added the T
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 7:42 am
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:44 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
You are by far the best poster on this site.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:46 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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but, a clerical error / typo added the T
wins the internet
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:48 am to ShortyRob
The term only makes sense if one's entire definition of people is that they share a general appearance.
People arrived in the Americas, depending on estimates, between 13 & 15,000 years ago.
Unless one clings to some fantasy that among all groups of humans on the planet, these arrivals did nothing but hold hands and sing kumbaya until 1492, then whomever the Europeans ran in to in 1492 were not only not the "first" organized groups of people in the Americas, they weren't even CLOSE to being the first organized groups.
People arrived in the Americas, depending on estimates, between 13 & 15,000 years ago.
Unless one clings to some fantasy that among all groups of humans on the planet, these arrivals did nothing but hold hands and sing kumbaya until 1492, then whomever the Europeans ran in to in 1492 were not only not the "first" organized groups of people in the Americas, they weren't even CLOSE to being the first organized groups.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:48 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
I think it was originally "Naive Americans"....but, a clerical error / typo added the T
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:50 am to ShortyRob
As (1/8 Cherokee) I prefer the term Bering Strait Land Bridge Crossers or Dry backs
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:51 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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BlackHelicopterPilot
The guy I would hate to face in a match of wit.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:52 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
"We" (really "y'all" ) gave them beads for Manhattan Island.
I think it was originally "Naive Americans"....but, a clerical error / typo added the T
close enough for govment work
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 7:57 am
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:53 am to WeeWee
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I prefer the term Bering Strait Land Bridge Crossers or Dry backs
Ice Walkers
Twinkle toes
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 7:56 am
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:53 am to ShortyRob
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Why do we use the term Native American
Kudos. I've said this for years. I think most people's interpretation of native means people that were here before the white man.
Sometimes reading is not fundamental it appears.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:54 am to Homesick Tiger
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The guy I would hate to face in a match of wit.
He must be Sicilian.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:55 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
If they had only known, they would have killed all those white people on day one.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:55 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
Well frick BHP. Your awesome sense of humor has totally derailed my non-current-event thread. Pfft.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:58 am to ShortyRob
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This term is utter nonsense.
Is it? I think you're being a bit picky in this situation.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:01 am to ShortyRob
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totally derailed my non-current-event thread
Sorry.
To try and be serious:
The "indians" were here 'natively' at the time this became named as "the Americas"...thus, Native Americans.
Before that, they were people on this land that we don't have a name for
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:01 am to GetCocky11
quote:I don't think so. The term is used for basically one purpose. To define one group as having some special status in relation to the group that arrived in 1492 despite the fact that the only real difference is that the group that arrived and ended up taking over the land looked different than those that were here in 1492. Those that were here in 1492 also took it from people, they just happened to share vaguely similar appearances. Using the absurd logic applied to use the term "Native American", then had the people arriving in 1492 done so from China and swept across the Americas, we could STILL refer to them as "Native Americans" today!!!!!
Is it? I think you're being a bit picky in this situation.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:04 am to sec13rowBBseat28
PC BS, nothing more.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:05 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:Who had gotten it from whomever was before them, whom had gotten it from whomever was before them.
Before that, they were people on this land that we don't have a name for
Unless of course, Native Americans developed their well known warrior skills for mere fun and never used them prior to our arrival.
The term basically means, "people who looked different than the folks who arrived and started keeping recorded history".
Had there been CNN cameras available for example when King Kamehameha "united" the Islands, he would've been portrayed basically as Hitler(rightfully so given that he killed EVERY LAST SOUL on Oahu)
Instead, they hold parades in his honor. The same stupidity applies in the mainland.
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