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In case you think it is just white cops killing black teens...
Posted on 11/30/14 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 11/30/14 at 9:49 pm
He is a case in Mobile Alabama where a black University of South Alabama killed a 140 lb (Maybe) white middle class freshman student who was naked and unarmed and tripping on acid (he either took or was slipped), He apparently went to police station as his mom told him to go there is in danger. The cop claimed he was threatening him etc so he killed him. Of course, we was not indicted. This year one of our local TV stations did an exclusive expose on this and the cops story looks like bullshite.
Cop is still on campus and armed and ready to kill again btw.
A University of South Alabama campus police officer who fatally shot a naked student was carrying pepper spray and a baton at the time, the school said Friday.
University spokesman Keith Ayers said Officer Trevis Austin, a four-year employee in his first police job, was armed with all three weapons when he walked outside the police station with his gun drawn to confront Gil Collar. The 18-year-old college freshman was naked when he banged on police department windows in the pre-dawn hours last Saturday.
It's unclear why Austin went for his gun first, but the sheriff has said the decision was proper.
Authorities said Collar, a 5-foot-7, 140-pound high school wrestler in his first semester of college, was on LSD when he moved aggressively toward the officer in an athletic stance, prompting the shooting. But surveillance video shows the student never tried to grab the officer's weapon or got within 4 or 5 feet of Austin.
A copy of the university's weapons policy, released to The Associated Press in response to an open records request, shows an officer's actions in cases where force is necessary should be based on how much a suspect resists. Deadly force is justified only when a suspect has the intent, ability and opportunity to kill or injure someone else, the policy states.
The policy says that an officer's attempt to control a situation "should match (the) level of resistance then move up or down as resistance changes." But Ayers declined comment on how the guidelines are interpreted when an officer is confronted by someone who doesn't have a weapon, yet could present a threat.
"The university is withholding further comment at this time as the district attorney and sheriff's office have time to conduct a thorough external review," he said.
An attorney for Collar's family, former Alabama Lt. Gov. Jere Beasley, said the university's policy "totally gives support to our position" that the shooting wasn't justified.
"There is no question the required force here was much less than shooting somebody," he said. "He could not say his life was in jeopardy or he was in fear of bodily harm."
Authorities have said a grand jury would review the shooting to determine whether charges should be filed. Such investigations are typical in police shootings in Alabama.
Mobile County Sheriff Sam Cochran has said it was unclear whether the officer could have done anything other than shoot Collar because he walked outside with his gun drawn.
"Had the officer had a Taser or some other less lethal instrument, I do not know if that officer would have had an opportunity to ... holster his pistol and to use something else because the events were evolving so rapidly and he was so close that had he put the pistol in the holster, I don't know that he could have drawn something else," Cochran told reporters earlier this week.
Cochran said he believed it was proper for the officer to go outside with his gun drawn after Collar repeatedly banged on windows at the campus police station, but he hasn't said whether he thought the shooting was justified.
Authorities haven't said why Austin drew his gun first rather than opting for a less-lethal weapon. Collar managed to get up even after being shot once in the chest, and backup officers arrived seconds after the shooting.
Beasley said there was nothing to justify the shooting on the surveillance video, which was shown to both the media and representatives of Beasley's law firm but has not been released publicly.
Collar's funeral is scheduled for Saturday in his hometown of Wetumpka, located about 20 miles north of Montgomery.
The university police department has 33 sworn officers, Ayers said. Members are required to meet the same type of minimum training standards as officers in a typical municipal or county department, but the school hasn't released details on Austin's training.
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Associated Press writer Phillip Rawls contributed to this report.
Video shows Gil Collar, 18, with his arms outstretched and palms open towards officer who shot him
Read more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2216612/Gil-Collar-shooting-Surveillance-video-shows-naked-Alabama-student-high-LSD.html#ixzz3Kc9HQJKK
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Of course they say they are immune from anything for killing this little kid
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Cop is still on campus and armed and ready to kill again btw.
A University of South Alabama campus police officer who fatally shot a naked student was carrying pepper spray and a baton at the time, the school said Friday.
University spokesman Keith Ayers said Officer Trevis Austin, a four-year employee in his first police job, was armed with all three weapons when he walked outside the police station with his gun drawn to confront Gil Collar. The 18-year-old college freshman was naked when he banged on police department windows in the pre-dawn hours last Saturday.
It's unclear why Austin went for his gun first, but the sheriff has said the decision was proper.
Authorities said Collar, a 5-foot-7, 140-pound high school wrestler in his first semester of college, was on LSD when he moved aggressively toward the officer in an athletic stance, prompting the shooting. But surveillance video shows the student never tried to grab the officer's weapon or got within 4 or 5 feet of Austin.
A copy of the university's weapons policy, released to The Associated Press in response to an open records request, shows an officer's actions in cases where force is necessary should be based on how much a suspect resists. Deadly force is justified only when a suspect has the intent, ability and opportunity to kill or injure someone else, the policy states.
The policy says that an officer's attempt to control a situation "should match (the) level of resistance then move up or down as resistance changes." But Ayers declined comment on how the guidelines are interpreted when an officer is confronted by someone who doesn't have a weapon, yet could present a threat.
"The university is withholding further comment at this time as the district attorney and sheriff's office have time to conduct a thorough external review," he said.
An attorney for Collar's family, former Alabama Lt. Gov. Jere Beasley, said the university's policy "totally gives support to our position" that the shooting wasn't justified.
"There is no question the required force here was much less than shooting somebody," he said. "He could not say his life was in jeopardy or he was in fear of bodily harm."
Authorities have said a grand jury would review the shooting to determine whether charges should be filed. Such investigations are typical in police shootings in Alabama.
Mobile County Sheriff Sam Cochran has said it was unclear whether the officer could have done anything other than shoot Collar because he walked outside with his gun drawn.
"Had the officer had a Taser or some other less lethal instrument, I do not know if that officer would have had an opportunity to ... holster his pistol and to use something else because the events were evolving so rapidly and he was so close that had he put the pistol in the holster, I don't know that he could have drawn something else," Cochran told reporters earlier this week.
Cochran said he believed it was proper for the officer to go outside with his gun drawn after Collar repeatedly banged on windows at the campus police station, but he hasn't said whether he thought the shooting was justified.
Authorities haven't said why Austin drew his gun first rather than opting for a less-lethal weapon. Collar managed to get up even after being shot once in the chest, and backup officers arrived seconds after the shooting.
Beasley said there was nothing to justify the shooting on the surveillance video, which was shown to both the media and representatives of Beasley's law firm but has not been released publicly.
Collar's funeral is scheduled for Saturday in his hometown of Wetumpka, located about 20 miles north of Montgomery.
The university police department has 33 sworn officers, Ayers said. Members are required to meet the same type of minimum training standards as officers in a typical municipal or county department, but the school hasn't released details on Austin's training.
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Associated Press writer Phillip Rawls contributed to this report.
Video shows Gil Collar, 18, with his arms outstretched and palms open towards officer who shot him
Read more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2216612/Gil-Collar-shooting-Surveillance-video-shows-naked-Alabama-student-high-LSD.html#ixzz3Kc9HQJKK
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Of course they say they are immune from anything for killing this little kid
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Posted on 11/30/14 at 9:59 pm to TutHillTiger
He killer cop who was so scared of a 5'7" 140 pound naked little frat boy that he wasted him as soon as he went into a wrestling stance 10 feet away is still on campus waiting to waste a few guys at the next Kappa Sig party. (They will not fire him as that would be construed as guilt)
There is video and he had both Mace and a baton on him bit decided to shot him instead. There were no riots no indictment and the story is been very quiet until last few months when people were beginning to say WTF?
I don't mean this as anything racial but simply to say this is as much an institutional problem and the militarization of our police force as racial intolerance. )Not to say racism isn't still a problem.)
The general public gives way to much credence to cops. There are lots of good cops and tons of bad cops.
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There is video and he had both Mace and a baton on him bit decided to shot him instead. There were no riots no indictment and the story is been very quiet until last few months when people were beginning to say WTF?
I don't mean this as anything racial but simply to say this is as much an institutional problem and the militarization of our police force as racial intolerance. )Not to say racism isn't still a problem.)
The general public gives way to much credence to cops. There are lots of good cops and tons of bad cops.
WSJ on topic:
ACLU on topic:
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This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 11/30/14 at 10:01 pm to TutHillTiger
You'd better break that down into something far more concise, old sport.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 10:47 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Small naked white college freshman bangs on campus police windows while tripping on LSD. Black campus police officer goes outside with his gun drawn. Small white guy gets in wrestling stance and the cop shoots him.
The sheriff backed the cop because he said he didn't know if it would have been smart to holster his weapon and then try to reach for a non-lethal weapon like pepper spray, a baton, or a taser, all of which he was carrying at the time, because he didn't know if he would have enough time.
That's the gist of the story.
The sheriff backed the cop because he said he didn't know if it would have been smart to holster his weapon and then try to reach for a non-lethal weapon like pepper spray, a baton, or a taser, all of which he was carrying at the time, because he didn't know if he would have enough time.
That's the gist of the story.
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 12:10 am to bhtigerfan
Small naked white college freshman bangs on campus police windows while tripping on LSD. Black campus police officer goes outside with his gun drawn. Small white guy gets in wrestling stance and the cop shoots him.
The sheriff backed the cop because he said he didn't know if it would have been smart to holster his weapon and then try to reach for a non-lethal weapon like pepper spray, a baton, or a taser, all of which he was carrying at the time, because he didn't know if he would have enough time.
That's the gist of the story. got it.
Cop gets no punishment still works there
The sheriff backed the cop because he said he didn't know if it would have been smart to holster his weapon and then try to reach for a non-lethal weapon like pepper spray, a baton, or a taser, all of which he was carrying at the time, because he didn't know if he would have enough time.
That's the gist of the story. got it.
Cop gets no punishment still works there
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:26 am to TutHillTiger
This is not a story you' d hear on NPR. Wrong narrative.
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