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Top Democrat sets off intraparty fury after saying Obamacare was a mistake
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:05 pm
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Sen. Chuck Schumer’s (D-New York) comments on Wednesday about Democrats’ misguided focus on health care in President Barack Obama’s first term prompted backlash from top Democrats and left-leaning groups, who accused him of being politically craven.
At a speech before the National Press Club in Washington on Tuesday, Schumer said Democrats made a mistake by entering into a fight over health care after they passed the 2009 economic stimulus.
His reasoning: Democrats were targeting the uninsured, a population that he said makes up only about 5 percent of registered voters. Only about one-third of the uninsured, he said, are registered or eligible to vote.
The “mandate” voters had provided Democrats with their 2008 victories, Schumer said, was put on the wrong problem.
“After passing the stimulus, Democrats should have continued to propose middle class-oriented programs and built on the partial success of the stimulus, but unfortunately Democrats blew the opportunity the American people gave them. We took their mandate and put all of our focus on the wrong problem – health care reform,” Schumer said.
“The plight of uninsured Americans and the hardships caused by unfair insurance company practices certainly needed to be addressed,” he added. “But it wasn’t the change we were hired to make. Americans were crying out for an end to the recession, for better wages and more jobs — not for changes in their health care.”
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:07 pm to UncleFestersLegs
rats off a sinking ship.... 
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:08 pm to UncleFestersLegs
quote:
“The plight of uninsured Americans and the hardships caused by unfair insurance company practices certainly needed to be addressed,” he added. “But it wasn’t the change we were hired to make. Americans were crying out for an end to the recession, for better wages and more jobs — not for changes in their health care.”
How could anyone argue with this?
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:13 pm to BigJim
I'm just shocked that it's Schumer saying this. Never would expect this from him.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:13 pm to UncleFestersLegs
Thinking about his reelection. Although he shouldn't have a problem in left leaning New York.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:16 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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Democrats were targeting the uninsured, a population that he said makes up only about 5 percent of registered voters. Only about one-third of the uninsured, he said, are registered or eligible to vote.
Typical Democrat. The only thing that matters is the vote. If you don't or can't vote, they have no use for you.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:16 pm to KCT
quote:they'll say anything to make themselves look good. all that crap he said was as if he didn't know before, during, or after the passage of that garbage. He's not maneuvering for reelection; he's maneuvering for more leadership in the Senate.
I'm just shocked that it's Schumer saying this. Never would expect this from him.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:23 pm to UncleFestersLegs
I think people can agree that setting healthcare reform as priority over other issues was a mistake without calling it "intraparty fury". Clinton did the same thing and while his didn't pass it was part of a snowball effect of debacles in his first two years which led to losing the House.
Obamacare was actually based on a bipartisan bill from the year's prior session which Dems incorrectly assumed would get bipartisan support given that prior bill and Romneycare with its GOP support. They assumed wrong.
Obamacare was actually based on a bipartisan bill from the year's prior session which Dems incorrectly assumed would get bipartisan support given that prior bill and Romneycare with its GOP support. They assumed wrong.
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:36 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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Americans were crying out for an end to the recession, for better wages and more jobs — not for changes in their health care.”
No sh!t Schumer
And how did you vote on it?
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:38 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Romneycare with its GOP support
Don't give a crap bout Mass. but keep flopping around.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:51 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Obamacare was actually based on a bipartisan bill from the year's prior session which Dems incorrectly assumed would get bipartisan support given that prior bill and Romneycare with its GOP support. They assumed wrong.
They shut out the other side from the beginning. They didn't need them to pass it. You reap what you sow.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:52 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:
Obamacare was actually based on a bipartisan bill from the year's prior session which Dems incorrectly assumed would get bipartisan support given that prior bill and Romneycare with its GOP support. They assumed wrong.
No they didn't.They knew that it wouldn't go anywhere, hence the deception.
Oh I'm sorry. You have never heard of Jon Gruber have you?
That's right. He is just another vast right wing conspiracy operative.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:18 pm to UncleFestersLegs
That is not true, the Republicans did NOT negotiate in good faith the with Dems from day one and they were told not to by GOP leadership.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:23 pm to Eurocat
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That is not true, the Republicans did NOT negotiate in good faith the with Dems from day one and they were told not to by GOP leadership.
horse shite
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:23 pm to Gray Tiger
They lied, deceived, and passed a Bill they didn't read. They should be horse-whipped for the deceit and laziness alone....Now, they know everyone knows.....Ooops, so Schumer is getting out in front of the Shite-storm coming. He ain't a fool.
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:33 pm to Eurocat
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That is not true, the Republicans did NOT negotiate in good faith the with Dems
You don't recall the republicans offered alternatives, and the Dems pronounced them DOA?
You don't recall Paul Ryan with Obama at the healthcare roundtable making valid points and being summarily dismissed?
Republican alternatives offered
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:34 pm to Eurocat
quote:
That is not true, the Republicans did NOT negotiate in good faith the with Dems from day one and they were told not to by GOP leadership.
quote:
McDonough, who was on the inside during these discussions, notes that Democratic leaders felt that it was unnecessary to solicit Republican support because Democrats had 60 votes in the Senate. “Reid’s directive, backed by the White House and supported by the House, was motivated in part by the seating of Minnesota’s Al Franken, the Democrats’ elusive sixtieth vote, meaning that Republicans were no longer needed to pass a bill. This directive, though, left Baucus’s plan with a gaping financial hole.”
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:35 pm to Eurocat
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Read
Jonathan Alter?
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“Repeal equals death,” Alter said. ”People will die in the United States if Obamacare is repealed. That is not an exaggeration. That is not crying fire. It’s a simple fact.”
lol
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:56 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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“The plight of uninsured Americans and the hardships caused by unfair insurance company practices certainly needed to be addressed,
So the solution is to make everyone buy it? Right?
This is the part thats so difficult for me.
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