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re: Why does the SEC suck in basketball?

Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:13 pm to
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the SEC sucks so much
so in the last couple decades, 3 different SEC teams have won NCs, correct?

Has the big10 had 3 different teams win?
Big 12?
Pac12?


Forget total number of titles.....where's the diversity amongst these other conferences? I guess these other "bball" conferences are simply middle heavy
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:13 pm to
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Lack of fanfare causing the schools to not put as much emphasis on the sport ?


I don't know if this is the real reason, but it is for me.

I just don't follow college basketball anymore. It's boring, diluted, and not the interesting product it used to be (or seems like it used to be).

I do watch LSU basketball games that are televised, but havent seen then play in person in 15 years. I sometimes go to UNO and Tulane games too, but really don't keep up with either program, especially since 2005.

It seems like college basketball is on a HUGE downward spiral in interest in the South, everywhere except Kentucky and Florida, the 2 schools that have had some success.

Plus, as soon as football ends, most of us are looking forward to the college baseball season. I already am.

This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 1:16 pm
Posted by CheerWhine
A little bit of Mardi Gras
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:17 pm to
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It seems like college basketball is on a HUGE downward spiral in interest in the South, everywhere except Kentucky and Florida, the 2 schools that have had some success.


Don't forget North Carolina. It's not an SEC state, but college basketball is huge there.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76504 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:17 pm to
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Has the big10 had 3 different teams win?


It depends if you want to arbitrarily go back 20 years or 27 years.

If 27, yes.
Posted by Sellecks Moustache
NC
Member since Jun 2014
5994 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:20 pm to
The SEC is about to have two straight years of having only 3 tournament bids. Have fun with being the 3rd best mid major conference.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25272 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:22 pm to
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Why does the SEC suck in basketball?


It doesn't suck that bad. The recent cycle hasn't be great, but in the early 2000s the SEC was considered the best top-to-bottom conference in the country.

Perception =/= reality. If the narrative exists, people take it as fact without actually look a bit deeper.
Posted by Sellecks Moustache
NC
Member since Jun 2014
5994 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:26 pm to
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ut in the early 2000s the SEC was considered the best top-to-bottom conference in the country.

WTF? The Big East and the ACC were miles better.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9441 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:31 pm to
It's a good question and I can tell you that I have witnessed a noticeable drop in Mizzou basketball fan interest since our move to the SEC. It's been the exact opposite effect from the positive one the SEC has had on our football program.

For a conference with so much money, such rabid fanbases, and great talent pools to recruit from - it doesn't make a lot of sense. The SEC should be very good at basketball.

The only rationale I can come up with is that football dominates the SEC so much that it has marginalized everything else and stripped resources and fans away from basketball (except at Kentucky and kinda Florida).
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18495 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:33 pm to
Hard to put the same amount of resources into 2 different sports. In the SEC it's football for most schools.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25272 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:33 pm to
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WTF? The Big East and the ACC were miles better.


I was just basing it off the fact that no conference had more NCAAT bids than the SEC in 3 tournaments from 2000-2002.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32600 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:34 pm to
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The SEC is about to have two straight years of having only 3 tournament bids. Have fun with being the 3rd best mid major conference.
yet 2 of the 3 SEC bids made it to the Final Four.

Damn you're getting owned
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30279 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:35 pm to
If you build it(FANFARE), they will come(Players and HCs)!

The south has plenty of quality ballers, although I generally do believe that the Seaboard and MW kids have slightly better fundamentals and Hoops IQ at 18ish.

But, where in the deep south sans UK do you see diehard fanbases(except when with a loaded winner)?

Iowa State fills Hilton,etc..even with a mediocre product. As do some other northern second-tier programs. SEC Football casts a long shadow, as even Signing Day and Spring Practice steal some thunder.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19667 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:36 pm to
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yet 2 of the 3 SEC bids made it to the Final Four.

Damn you're getting owned


No one has said anything negative about UK or UF, it's the rest of the conference
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25881 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:37 pm to
So you're equating the streaky, getting hot flair of the tournament to the overall strength of the conference? get of out of here. Anyone with eyeballs can see that the SEC overall in the last decade has been 'meh'. Regardless of the championships won or tourney performance.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32600 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:38 pm to
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No one has said anything negative about UK or UF, it's the rest of the conference
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And the SEC is a one school basketball conference.
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SEC-1
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19667 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:39 pm to
Well that is just retarded, UF's success speaks for itself
Posted by Sellecks Moustache
NC
Member since Jun 2014
5994 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:41 pm to
Nope, you're just outing yourself as a retard
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32600 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:41 pm to
Why don't these other conferences have quality enough teams to be able to put themselves in a position to get "streaky", or a "hot flair", when it matters most?

Guess the Big10, Big12, & Pac12 are all just mediocre? Only good during the regular season? Choke artists in crunch time?

What is it?

This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76504 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:43 pm to
4/10
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19667 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Why don't these other conferences have quality enough teams to be able to put themselves in a position to get "streaky", or a "hot flair", when it matters most?

Guess the Big10, Big12, & Pac12 are all just mediocre? Only good during the regular season? Choke artists in crunch time?


A lot of people would probably argue that the NCAA tourney isn't exactly the greatest method of determining the actual best team in the country. It is obviously what every team strives to win but when measuring conference strength I think the regular season really holds more merit and not necessarily NCAAT results.
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