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re: Those who still play in standard leagues.............Why?

Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by forksup
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:49 pm to
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Prime example is James Jones in Week 10. 8 catches for 20 yards, no TDs.


This is pretty annoying too.

Maybe if there were an option to only reward 0.5 for a reception if it's longer than 5/10/15(?) yards would make it better?
Posted by hiltacular
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:51 pm to
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Boring, less scoring,

More scoring =/ more fun
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:51 pm to
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I don't see what PPR adds to fantasy football other than another point category


Completely changes the draft.

Receivers are as valuable as RB's.

Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:53 pm to
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More scoring =/ more fun



I gotcha, I can see where some wouldn't like the high scoring.

Posted by MrWiseGuy
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:55 pm to
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Those who still play in standard leagues.............Why?


I'm a traditionalist.

With that said, I think the 0.5 per reception format that I play in two leagues is the way to go.

There's too heavy of an emphasis on running backs in standard leagues.

In PPR leagues, the points rack up too quickly for players having no impact on a game. Example, in Week 10, James Jones scored 10 points PPR formats having 20 yards receiving and didn't score a TD...wha?

Big fan of the 0.5 per reception, and I hate 6 points per TD pass. But that's seems to be the wave of the future, so whatevs.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Nonetheless
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:56 pm to
Because all the big money leagues in vegas are standard
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:56 pm to
I've heard of some leagues that don't start rewarding catches until after 3 or 4.
Posted by hiltacular
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:56 pm to
I am in 2 leagues, 1 is PPR 1 is standard.

The PPR has ridiculously high point scoring, the standard is very anti-points (kickers and D get very little points, QB 4pt passing TDs etc).

Both are enjoyable in their own right.

I think receptions are very hard to predict week to week and add another element of luck to FF, granted FF is largely dependent on luck no matter the system.

This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 3:59 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:57 pm to
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There's too heavy of an emphasis on running backs in standard leagues.



This.
Posted by Ooh Wee Ooh
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:58 pm to
Cause i'm too lazy to be commish
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:59 pm to
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Both are enjoyable in their own right.

This.

I don't see why people that favor PPR constantly feel the need to shite on standard leagues.

Oh, you don't like standard leagues? Glorious. No one gives a shite.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:00 pm to
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I don't see why people that favor PPR constantly feel the need to shite on standard leagues.


Not shitting at all, I just don't like the format, and wanted to get fans of the formats opinions on why they like it.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:02 pm to
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why?


Because unless someone devises a scoring system that is scaled to reflect to each individual play in a game, it's never going to be perfect. The stupid argument that a catch for negative yards still gives a receiver points is dumb. You are still losing points. And it's one play that may happen 10 times a year. All teams play by the same scoring regardless.

Also, receptions are a stat that the Hall of Fame recognizes as one of it's cornerstone records. We all know who owns the most receptions in NFL history. Whoever leads the NFL in receptions at the end of the year in a big deal. So id say the league recognizes that stat as a valuable one, and it should reflect in fantasy. And 1 yd catch could be a vital first down.

In my standard league, 19 of the top 25 players are QBs. PPR also helps even the playing field among position players (15 of top 25 are QBs in PPR).
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:03 pm to
There are pros and cons to each. I enjoy both systems.

I guess I've just been seeing it more and more recently with posters jerking off to PPR while degrading standard.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:03 pm to
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PPR also helps even the playing field among position players (15 of top 25 are QBs in PPR).


One of the major reasons I celebrate the format.
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:07 pm to
That's a long answer to a question I didn't ask.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:09 pm to
I play in a family type league with some cousins. Most of them are first timers, and that one is standard. The ones that matter, the big money leagues are PPR.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:15 pm to
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The ones that matter, the big money leagues are PPR.



Another thing that is pretty common.

Most big money leagues roll with a PPR.
Posted by Pnels08
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:17 pm to
So why no point per carry?
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:18 pm to
My original post was said in sarcasm in response to the whole "a so and so catch isnt valuable" and "a negative catch still rewards points". Point was, you cannot decipher each and every play and what point total is award. There are always ticky tack flaws you can pick out about anything in fantasy.

The average distance of an NFL reception is over 10 yards. So the majority of receptions in the league are going for first downs. You guys are going to act like it's a point per carry league or some shite, whereas receptions are actually valuable to an NFL game.
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