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Why isn't this a rule in football?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:43 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:43 am
Offense 1st and 10 at their own 7 yd line called for holding. Instead of a 3 1/2 yd penalty (half the distance), move the 1st down marker from 17 to 27 yd line, 2nd and 20. Lol duh
I've been following football since I was so young that I never thought about this or questioned it. Not sure if I'd like it personally but ironically it was someone who doesn't follow football closely that pointed this out to me.
I've been following football since I was so young that I never thought about this or questioned it. Not sure if I'd like it personally but ironically it was someone who doesn't follow football closely that pointed this out to me.
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:46 am to eddieray
Agreed, it makes no sense. Or better yet, the defense should get to choose, either adding 10 yards or whatever it is, or half the distance.
If it's 1st and 10 at your own 1 or 2, because the consequences of a penalty aren't nearly what they are at any other spot on the field.
If it's 1st and 10 at your own 1 or 2, because the consequences of a penalty aren't nearly what they are at any other spot on the field.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:46 am to eddieray
That's genius. I used to officiate and am a rules junkie but never thought about that
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:51 am to eddieray
Mind blown
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:52 am to shel311
Youre right, I only used the 7 yd line because I didn't want the holding penalty leading to a safety getting us off track
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 7:53 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:57 am to eddieray
Flip your logic and you get your answer.
How do you solve this problem on the other end when defenses have the advantage of only going half the distance? Can't move the chains.
Therefore, if the defense has to maintain this advantage on one side of the field, the rules allow the offense this advantage on the other side.
How do you solve this problem on the other end when defenses have the advantage of only going half the distance? Can't move the chains.
Therefore, if the defense has to maintain this advantage on one side of the field, the rules allow the offense this advantage on the other side.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 7:59 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:09 am to theunknownknight
That did cross my mind, I noticed it didn't balanced. Not sure if it really has to though, but that's surely why the rules are as they are.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 8:11 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:13 am to theunknownknight
Why couldn't they move the ball as far as the penalty allows them?
If you have the ball at the opponent's 7 yard line, a 10 yard penalty could put you at the 1 instead of half the distance.
If you have the ball at the opponent's 7 yard line, a 10 yard penalty could put you at the 1 instead of half the distance.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 8:14 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:13 am to eddieray
I think the main thing is there is no way to implement the same thing against the defense on the other side of the field.
An offense could be penalized 10 yds anywhere on the field while a defense could only be penalized a full 10 yds from the <-1 to the 11->.
One other scenario, say, if the offense has a 3rd or 4th & 10 on their own 3 yd line in a 2 min situation, a team with an excellent pass rush would probably like the 1.5 yd penalty.
It'd put a lot of pressure on the QB working in his endzone and the defensive line would have a better chance at a safety to end the game.
tl;dr-
It'd have some drawbacks but this is interesting
A lot moreso than removing 90% of the kickoffs...
An offense could be penalized 10 yds anywhere on the field while a defense could only be penalized a full 10 yds from the <-1 to the 11->.
One other scenario, say, if the offense has a 3rd or 4th & 10 on their own 3 yd line in a 2 min situation, a team with an excellent pass rush would probably like the 1.5 yd penalty.
It'd put a lot of pressure on the QB working in his endzone and the defensive line would have a better chance at a safety to end the game.
tl;dr-
It'd have some drawbacks but this is interesting
A lot moreso than removing 90% of the kickoffs...
Posted on 11/24/14 at 8:23 am to theunknownknight
quote:
How do you solve this problem on the other end when defenses have the advantage of only going half the distance? Can't move the chains.
Therefore, if the defense has to maintain this advantage on one side of the field, the rules allow the offense this advantage on the other side.
well they do give the offense a 1st down, so maybe it evens out
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:01 am to eddieray
Not a bad idea
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:08 am to eddieray
They are attached by a chain that is exactly 10 yards in length. 
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:10 am to dnm3305
quote:Are they permanently attached to the ground?
They are attached by a chain that is exactly 10 yards in length.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:16 am to eddieray
Makes sense to me.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:19 am to eddieray
Because you want the other team to move backwards, not just lengthen the first down yardage. Field position matters
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:22 am to eddieray
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Offense 1st and 10 at their own 7 yd line called for holding. Instead of a 3 1/2 yd penalty (half the distance), move the 1st down marker from 17 to 27 yd line, 2nd and 20. Lol duh
I've been following football since I was so young that I never thought about this or questioned it. Not sure if I'd like it personally but ironically it was someone who doesn't follow football closely that pointed this out to me.
Thanks for starting YET ANOTHER thread on this exact topic.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:22 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Not a bad idea to give the other team the option. I think a strong majority of teams would rather have the opponent be 1st and 20 from the 7 than 1st and 13 from the 3.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:24 am to SportsGuyNOLA
Oh blow it out your arse.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:24 am to boom roasted
The problem is what do you do when it's on the other end of the field?
It's not fair that the offense would only get half the distance on an offsides call, facemask, etc
It's not fair that the offense would only get half the distance on an offsides call, facemask, etc
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 10:26 am
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