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re: A punt caught by the punting team should be a reception

Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:43 pm to
The fact you're even entertaining this clown thread tells me all I need to know about you.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:44 pm to
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The fact you're even entertaining this clown thread tells me all I need to know about you.

Sorry, you're not making any sense.

I never said I agreed with it, not sure what you're even doing here.

You think punters will begin to try punt passes to guys every 4th down, which is laughable.

You whiffed on this one, not sure what else to tell you. The, "tells me all I need to know about you", ok buddy. Keep on keepin on.

Speaking of, you thinking it'll turn into rugby shows your lack of understanding of basic football.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 3:46 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:47 pm to
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The fact you're even entertaining this clown thread tells me all I need to know about you.


You're just a Statist slave to the man. You probably screamed and hollered about the forward pass itself.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76522 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:48 pm to
Instead of blocking, you just line up everyone on the line of scrimmage, and run out to the left or right and rugby style kick the ball down the field.

All the eligible receivers sprint down the field and try to make a reception. If they don't, it's the same as a punt. Or they could just make all the players eligible for this nonsense and everyone runs down the field. They will try this every 4th down, they would have no reason not to. It's laughable that you don't think they would. Not sure what else to tell you.



Why does he want to give the offense more of a chance to pick up a first down?


Keep on keepin on.

Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:48 pm to
I agree with what you're saying in this thread. It wouldn't change much.

We would see a lot of drives start inside the 10 yard line, though. Not really sure how the NFL would feel about that either way.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:50 pm to
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If you made this rule, then if the punting team dropped the catch of the punt/"reception", that would have to be an incomplete pass, right?


Would be just like today, ball is dead where it was touched by punting team. 1st down receiving team.
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:50 pm to
I think the OP is either high and/or read the 4th down pass interference exception rule.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110880 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:51 pm to
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They will try this every 4th down, they would have no reason not to. It's laughable that you don't think they would.


I'm not even sure you understand what he's saying right now.

You're saying punting teams would gladly give up tons of field position yardage on the .5% chance they catch a punt in the air. Like I said, basic football knowledge would tell you this is a horrific idea to try, especially every down, it would be a net negative by 100 yards per game lol. Teams would be unbelievably lucky to convert this once per season.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Instead of blocking, you just line up everyone on the line of scrimmage, and run out to the left or right and rugby style kick the ball down the field.

All the eligible receivers sprint down the field and try to make a reception. If they don't, it's the same as a punt.
So what's the problem?
Posted by LL012697
Member since May 2013
3963 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:51 pm to
Go back to the rant dumbass
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Instead of blocking, you just line up everyone on the line of scrimmage, and run out to the left or right and rugby style kick the ball down the field.

All the eligible receivers sprint down the field and try to make a reception. If they don't, it's the same as a punt. Or they could just make all the players eligible for this nonsense and everyone runs down the field. They will try this every 4th down, they would have no reason not to. It's laughable that you don't think they would. Not sure what else to tell you.

Wouldn't the return team just put a few safety return men up short and fair catch every time? Which would result in poor net yardage on the punt?

This would be a fad which would die out rather quickly.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110880 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

I agree with what you're saying in this thread. It wouldn't change much.

We would see a lot of drives start inside the 10 yard line, though. Not really sure how the NFL would feel about that either way.
Exactly, what the heck is Kosmo talking about?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110880 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:52 pm to
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Would be just like today, ball is dead where it was touched by punting team. 1st down receiving team.

Well that's ridiculous.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:53 pm to
frickin gump juiceterry
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76522 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:54 pm to
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I'm not even sure you understand what he's saying right now.

You're saying punting teams would gladly give up tons of field position yardage on the .5% chance they catch a punt in the air. Like I said, basic football knowledge would tell you this is a horrific idea to try, especially every down, it would be a net negative by 100 yards per game lol. Teams would be unbelievably lucky to convert this once per season.


I'm not saying they should do this every down.

I thought he was saying that you could just smear the return man and kick catch interference was basically gone. He didn't clarify that until after his second bowl pack.

And they wouldn't really lose field position. It would open up the entire field. They could run, pass or kick for a first down.

Why does he want to make it easier for a team to pick up a first down after the defense successfully stopped the team previous;y and the defensive team has a field position and yard to gain advantage?

It makes no sense.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110880 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Wouldn't the return team just put a few safety return men up short and fair catch every time? Which would result in poor net yardage on the punt?

This would be a fad which would die out rather quickly.
Bingo.

It would literally work less than 1% of the time, i'm guessing. Why would a team ever really try it intentionally, much less every 4th down?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

You're saying punting teams would gladly give up tons of field position yardage on the .5% chance they catch a punt in the air. Like I said, basic football knowledge would tell you this is a horrific idea to try, especially every down, it would be a net negative by 100 yards per game lol. Teams would be unbelievably lucky to convert this once per season.


Exactly. It's a huge risk. So there should be reward. Or punishment. More variables. More excitement. The return team should have to actually take possession of the ball.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:54 pm to
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It would take more skill than catching a pass from a QB. Would make the game more exciting. It's a great idea, hold on, I have Goodell on the line.. I'll let you know what he says.



It would look exactly like it does in rugby...
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76522 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

Wouldn't the return team just put a few safety return men up short and fair catch every time?


They could easily run for a first down if you put enough people off the LOS.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Wouldn't the return team just put a few safety return men up short and fair catch every time?
So you would fair catch a punt sailing 40 yards past you? Why not give your return man a chance to advance the ball?
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