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Teacher to student: If you don't support gay marriage, drop my class

Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:54 pm
Posted by House_of Cards
Pascagoula, MS
Member since Dec 2013
3927 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:54 pm
Fox News Report

“We had a discussion on all of them – except gay rights,” the student told me. “She erased that line from the board and said, ‘We all agree on this.’”

Well, as it so happened – the student did not agree with instructor Abbate.

So after class he approached the instructor and told her he thought they should have discussed the issue of gay rights. He also recorded their conversation -- without her permission.

“Are you saying if I don’t agree with gays not being allowed to get married that I’m homophobic?” the student asked.

“I’m saying it would come off as a homophobic comment in this class,” the teacher replied.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:00 pm to
The thought police strike again
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:00 pm to
Is WI a one or two party state with regards to recorded conversations?
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29174 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

Is WI a one or two party state with regards to recorded conversations?



One:

quote:

Wisconsin – If the person who records the wire, electronic, or oral communication is a party to the conversation or has obtained prior consent from one party, he may lawfully record the communications. Consent is not required for the taping of a non-electronic communication uttered by a person who does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in that communication.


LINK
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66576 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:12 pm to
that is a bs news story.

the worst you can do is criticize this teacher for not wanting to deal with a real issue, but she didn't say if you don't support gay marriage you can drop my class.

She said if you don't like how she is running the class you can drop it.

The class can be a place for the free exchange of idea, but it is also a place of learning, and the instructor has the power to control the conversation and curriculum.

IF this student was discussing the matter in a public setting it is a different story.
Posted by LSUDUKE
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2007
1045 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:18 pm to
If you want to maintain credibility in political discussions I would suggest to not use stories from Todd Starnes.
Posted by monceaux
Houston
Member since Sep 2013
1182 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:38 pm to
How about not using opinion pieces as fact? Good lord. How can you even take this crap seriously? First line:

Students who oppose gay marriage are homophobic, according to an audio recording of a Marquette University instructor

Followed by:

“Are you saying if I don’t agree with gays not being allowed to get married that I’m homophobic?” the student asked.

“I’m saying it would come off as a homophobic comment in this class,” the teacher replied.


The intellectual dishonesty here is ridiculous.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:02 pm to
Show your teeth a little more. That teacher is an employee of the state, she does not not reserve the right to tell people what they should believe.

Continue on with your male privilege.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14341 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:30 am to
quote:

If you want to maintain credibility in political discussions I would suggest to not use stories from Todd Starnes.

this
Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:05 am to
quote:

That teacher is an employee of the state, she does not not reserve the right to tell people what they should believe. Continue on with your male privilege.
she is not an employee of the state. Fail.

Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23312 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:17 am to
quote:

The class can be a place for the free exchange of idea, but it is also a place of learning, and the instructor has the power to control the conversation and curriculum.


With the exception of religion. If the teacher wants to let the students know how great Jesus is, then that's offensive.

But setting the homophobes straight on gay marriage is ok.

That sounds reasonable and not hypocritical at all.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:25 am to
quote:

That teacher is an employee of the state


uhhhh
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119204 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:32 am to
There should be outrage over it, but there won't be. Wrong side of the issue.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67959 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:33 am to
Generally, open minded people don't practice censorship.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:00 am to
quote:

The class can be a place for the free exchange of idea, but it is also a place of learning, and the instructor has the power to control the conversation and curriculum.
Interesting perspective regarding an ethics class taught at a Catholic University insofar as the instructors premise "we all agree on this” was indisputably wrong.
Her premise was not debatable.
It was flatly false.

In fact, considering Catholic dogma, it was an outright lie.
For an instructor not to be called out by the school when she lies is inexcusable.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:41 am to
quote:


“Are you saying if I don’t agree with gays not being allowed to get married that I’m homophobic?”
yes
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:48 am to
quote:

“Are you saying if I don’t agree with gays not being allowed to get married that I’m homophobic?”

yes
Perhaps you should read that again
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:49 am to
Tolerance
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 9:01 am to
Even if one accepts the concept that the student is homophobic, something tells me that this professor wouldn't stop another student for lambasting Christianity. Or, conservatism. Or a variety of other subjects. So, her assertion that some student in the class might be gay and therefore, offended falls flat.

This is but another example of how liberals want certain ideas squashed entirely in the name of "offense" but then, will happily offend the frick out of anyone they don't like.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 9:58 am to
No one can deny libs are the most tolerant people around when it comes to respecting the opposing beliefs of others.

That is when they're not trying to remove people from the airwaves or their jobs for having a dissenting POV.
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