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re: JJ is a mediocre coach

Posted on 11/22/14 at 3:31 am to
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10877 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 3:31 am to
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Nothing, but you're wasting your time. There are people here that are completely thrilled with his first 2 seasons for some reason.
The same ones that were thrilled with Trent Johnson. The same ones that are currently thrilled with Nikki Caldwell. The same ones that are thrilled with Les Miles and his dysfunctional Offense/Quarterback. The same ones! Yall know of whom we speak and we shall make no mention of their group identity......
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 4:15 am to
Weve We've played three games you fricking tards.....three

The most impatient bunch of fools......truly a marvel of ignorance.

Nuts4lsu?????? More like just nuts. Basketball is not like football. Mid majors are capable. If lsu doesnt get in fould trouble, they win by 10+

Go ahead and drown in a pool of your own tears
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28245 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:26 am to
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Mediocre is too high. The guy is an excellent recruiter and a bad coach. I totally agree with the free lancing comment. There is no emphasis on defense. This is a team that will get some good wins because they will shoot well (just like last year) and lose a lot of winnable games because they are not a team that emphasizes much els


Exactly. I'm also glad to see that some are starting to realize that LSU's "short guards" weren't the problem on defense last year. It's a systemic problem for this coaching staff. Jones can say all he wants, but the on court play shows there is very little emphasis on the defensive side of the ball. Far too often LSU looks like an AAU team on the court with no discernible plan of attack. To his credit Jones will adjust "in game", but it is adjusting to fix the same deficiencies that happen game after game.

I thought tha addition of Musselman would bring more emphasis on structure and execution, so far it hasn't. Yes, it's just game 3. But it is unsettling to see the same issues last year start to plague this team already this year.
Posted by richbad
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
1149 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:45 am to
This team looks like they are just five guys free lancing 80% of the time


Think about it the apple don't fall far from the Dale Brown tree.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
15648 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:28 am to
I agree he's not a great coach and he's proven that
Posted by Mulerider
Member since Jul 2013
1615 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:33 am to
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I have zero faith in Alleva to find any coach for any of our athletic teams.


Beth Torina has turned out to be a great hire. Alleva may have many more question marks than answers but so far she has been exceptional.

Posted by macanLSU
Wilmington, NC
Member since Sep 2008
445 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:02 am to
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I thought the addition of Musselman would bring more emphasis on structure and execution, so far it hasn't. Yes, it's just game 3. But it is unsettling to see the same issues last year start to plague this team already this year.


That was exactly the reason Coach Jones hired Coach Musselman, wasn't it? Still hoping that very soon Coach Jones will be able to fully utilize Coach Musselman's expertise & experiences for the team. With the talents we have, we should expect a much more competitive and fun to watch team!
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:25 am to
Seems to be the theme at LSU for all major sports
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:36 am to
Not a great coach; not horrible. Master recruiter. He'll be fine...just needs to tell his team about "shot selection" and 1 (us) on 4 (them ) fast breaks are a bad idea.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14474 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:15 am to
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I'm also glad to see that some are starting to realize that LSU's "short guards" weren't the problem on defense last year. It's a systemic problem for this coaching staff


I agree Alt. I always thought that to be a rationalization. If one really paid attention last year the defensive issues were much deeper.

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I thought tha addition of Musselman would bring more emphasis on structure and execution, so far it hasn't. Yes, it's just game 3. But it is unsettling


I agree here as well. I'm no Dale guy by a long shot, but he would let his assistants have a lot of say. Johnny is much more hands on. From what I see early, it's much of the same. To this point I don't see much of a sign of Musselmana's imprint.
Posted by HSHoopscoach
kenner
Member since Jan 2007
702 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:30 am to
"JJ is a mediocre coach"

go get Trent Johnson then lol. He is an excellent coach.

But seriously, people who say this about JJ without knowing him personally or knowing his players personally really can't gauge this.

Some coaches' strength isn't recruiting or x's and o's.
Its called player development, and these coaches do a good job of getting their players to respect the game by becoming a life-long learnesr of it, another- they sell the players on the fact that they need to practice the nuances of the craft more than anyone you plan to ever defeat.

If you have a team that is not the most physically most gifted team in the nation, nor the most talented, then how could they expect to win?

Practice hard?
No, all the great programs have great coaches who work the hell out of their players, pretty much to their physical limits.

The answer is simple. got to out-work em. You have to develop outside of practice too. Keeping the mind and body right, practicing the fundamentals religiously (to the extent that you dont seem sane)

Im hoping Trent has a vision and can really develop our complimentary players who will be here for several years like Tim Quarterman
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 11:32 am
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2650 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:37 am to
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We have way too much talent to lose to a team like ODU.
The talent is not playing well. Coaching always has something to do with it but the players have to do what they are capable of also. So far they aren't and judging by their shooting they aren't great or even very good talent.

So far this season:

Jarrel Martin 43.2% shooting 1-11 on 3's
Tim Quarterman 35.3% 3-11 on 3's
Keith Hornsby 42.9% 8-19 on 3's
Jordan Mickey 60.6% Yes he is doing good. But he decided to take two 3's and missed both. Why is he shooting 3's? Do you think Jones tells him to?
Josh Gray 44.8% 2-5 3's Gray has been very unselfish so far and is trying very hard to set everyone else up. But when I see he has only taken 5 three point shots and Martin and Quarterman 11 each then that needs to change.

So do we have great talent? No not really. Do we have good talent, yes. Are they going to lose some games, especially in the early going, yes. Do we know whether they are a tournament team and will do well in SEC? Could go either way. Time will tell.
Posted by HSHoopscoach
kenner
Member since Jan 2007
702 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:43 am to


Tim Quarterman will suit up for an NBA game at some point of his life
Posted by HSHoopscoach
kenner
Member since Jan 2007
702 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:43 am to


Tim Quarterman will suit up for an NBA game at some point of his life
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14474 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:49 am to
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Tim Quarterman will suit up for an NBA game at some point of his life


The one silver lining to this point. He has improved dramatically on both ends of the court.

I think the staff pumped him up a bit too much coming in last year and I think he was a part of that too tooting his own horn. Sometimes humble pie can be a good thing. Looks like it was for Q.
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:50 am to
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The same ones that were thrilled with Trent Johnson. The same ones that are currently thrilled with Nikki Caldwell. The same ones that are thrilled with Les Miles and his dysfunctional Offense/Quarterback. The same ones! Yall know of whom we speak and we shall make no mention of their group identity......


semjackass (BRAVEHEART) made an appearance in the thread vilifying Trent Johnson, JJ and Nikki. Who knew. Nice touch throwing Coach Miles in there too guy. You are so clever.
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