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Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
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Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:37 am to
My brother, you're way too smart to be wasting your time on that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:50 am to
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Simply highlighting this boards infatuation with blacks. I honestly think its fascinating.



Certain people accusing anyone who doesn't vote with the Democrats as being racist doesn't help. Race has literally been forced into almost every political discussion since I've been posting here, so it's not a one sided "obsession."
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:50 am to
I honestly think its quite interesting, with a significant psychological component. To put it briefly, my current theory is that many individuals have a legit desire to discuss blacks and issues they currently face (others just want to vent), but avoid doing so IRL for risk of being labeled "racist" in todays PC society. So they consider the PB as their safe haven. Which produces thread after thread after thread re: blacks despite only making up 13% of the population.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:52 am to
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Certain people accusing anyone who doesn't vote with the Democrats as being racist doesn't help. Race has literally been forced into almost every political discussion since I've been posting here, so it's not a one sided "obsession."

I hear ya Roger, but I'm a believer that two wrongs dont make a right. The obsession will never end if each side continues to try to one up each other.
Posted by Rich Kotite
Coaching Hall of Fame
Member since Jan 2014
2211 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:56 am to
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but avoid doing so IRL


And exactly how does that happen? There are no "community forums" for the white folk to moan and bitch about everything.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:57 am to
As long as race/gender/sexuality are made political issues, they'll be discussed ad nauseam. A few months ago, it was gay issues, wealth issues, it will be women, old white men...

Newtons third law rings true. If somethings made an issue, there will be a proportional reaction.

Hope we get to the point to where we're all Americans. No hope for that, too much power in division.
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 12:58 am
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61216 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:57 am to
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I honestly think its quite interesting, with a significant psychological component. To put it briefly, my current theory is that many individuals have a legit desire to discuss blacks and issues they currently face (others just want to vent), but avoid doing so IRL for risk of being labeled "racist" in todays PC society. So they consider the PB as their safe haven. Which produces thread after thread after thread re: blacks despite only making up 13% of the population.
I agree with all that. But why mock them with the blackobsessed line? Seems to me that would only discourage dialogue.

Here's where I am vis a vis posters and this board. Talk about what you want to talk about, say what you want to say and as long as it doesn't violate td.com's rules, I say may peace be upon you. If I don't like the thread, I stay out of it (unless a thread gets RA'd like this one did and I have to come poking around to see what's going on).

Life's too short to be fighting e-battles every day.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:05 am to
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I agree with all that. But why mock them with the blackobsessed line? Seems to me that would only discourage dialogue.

I mean, sometimes I feel like they are more "vent sessions" than actual dialogue. Just think about; if you wanted actual, constructive dialogue that is meaningful re: blacks, would you go to a place with like 3 black people and hundreds of non black?
quote:

Here's where I am vis a vis posters and this board. Talk about what you want to talk about, say what you want to say and as long as it doesn't violate td.com's rules, I say may peace be upon you. If I don't like the thread, I stay out of it (unless a thread gets RA'd like this one did and I have to come poking around to see what's going on). Life's too short to be fighting e-battles every day.

Ok fine. Just bc I like you and you've been good to me I'll try my best to minimize my :blackobsession:

(this board still obsessed tho )
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61216 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:23 am to
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I mean, sometimes I feel like they are more "vent sessions" than actual dialogue. Just think about; if you wanted actual, constructive dialogue that is meaningful re: blacks, would you go to a place with like 3 black people and hundreds of non black?
Exactly, which is what I meant with my first comment. You're wasting your time on a battle that isn't going to be won anytime soon. You may live to see it. I doubt if I will. In the meantime, a mind like yours can be put to better use. Unless you're here just blowing off steam, which is a perfectly acceptable use of one's time, especially for someone who is facing the pressure of med school. I will confess to doing a bit of that myself in my earlier days on td.com.

quote:

Ok fine. Just bc I like you and you've been good to me I'll try my best to minimize my :blackobsession:
I have confidence in your good judgment.

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this board still obsessed tho


Now I'm outta here. I hope to finish ready Jonathan Harr's "A Civil Action" tonight. I'm actually re-reading it. I read it when it first came out in 1996. It's a true story about the high stakes litigation involving leukemia clusters in Woburn, Massachusetts in the 1980's. I usually donate books to our local "Friends of the Library" society after I finish reading them, but this is one I hung onto because I knew I was going to read it again one day. Nothing John Grisham or Scott Turow could dream up could top what's in this book.

Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72872 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:26 am to
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The black family didn't really begin falling apart until the late 60s. The subsequent 20 years tore it apart due to a combination of LBJ's social reforms, the drug trade beginning to really target young black males in the 70s and Reagan's drug enforcement policies.

The result was an entire generation of young AA males either strung out on drugs, dealing them or both, a system of welfare which allowed them to sustain themselves in such a lifestyle and a drug policy that disproportionately targeted and punished them. The effects then propagated to future generations who simply did as they saw their parents do.

The biggest thing we could do to help black America today is not to give them more financial aid but to drastically reform our drug enforcement policy.


Nice post, Roger. I agree with the summation. My generation was put in the cross hairs of the WOD. Many guys I grew up with not around anymore. The thug life claimed them.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67692 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 2:24 am to
The irresponsible.

/thread
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 4:00 am to
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The irresponsible.

/thread


What a novel concept. It may actually be their fault for being so weak that they were susceptible to the manipulations of the democratic party.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:12 am to
Individual responsibility just like it is for dysfunctional white, yellow or red families.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:46 am to
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Now I'm outta here. I hope to finish ready Jonathan Harr's "A Civil Action" tonight. I'm actually re-reading it. I read it when it first came out in 1996. It's a true story about the high stakes litigation involving leukemia clusters in Woburn, Massachusetts in the 1980's. I usually donate books to our local "Friends of the Library" society after I finish reading them, but this is one I hung onto because I knew I was going to read it again one day. Nothing John Grisham or Scott Turow could dream up could top what's in this book.

Wow sounds legit. I might have to check this one out
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98490 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:47 am to
Lbj
Posted by Jim Ignatowski
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
1383 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:49 am to
Why can't blacks in general be responsible for themselves????.....or is that too novel of an idea??
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:24 am to


Or Billy Dee. But definitely, the Colt.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:46 am to
The challenges of the black family are a growing pain of social progress. Integration killed a lot of black businesses, making it harder for blacks to succeed.

I am less than impressed with the way Democrats (and black men in particular) have faced this challenge.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18302 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:50 am to
Integration didn't kill black businesses, regulation did.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112417 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Which produces thread after thread after thread re: blacks despite only making up 13% of the population.


This is an LSU board. Louisiana has a very much higher percentage of blacks than 13%.
Cities and suburbs are shaped by race. IE, you live in New Orleans. It's a black city. It's dangerous as hell.

Up here whites who used to live in Shreveport have been moving to Bossier to escape black governance. Crime, high taxes, lower property values, corruption. Shreveport is becoming a small Detroit. And that was a charge issued by a black candidate for mayor, Michael Williams.

If this was a BYU board I don't think there would be much discussion about race.
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