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re: GOP: Where is the strategy?
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:42 am to TOKEN
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:42 am to TOKEN
Strategy?
The first thing they did was to signal no use of their constitutional impeachment or budget powers.
This is like telling the enemy that you are about to meet them on the battlefield but we are leaving our tanks and planes at home.
Dude, even if you don't plan on using that stuff, at the very least you should keep it on the table.
Stupid.
The first thing they did was to signal no use of their constitutional impeachment or budget powers.
This is like telling the enemy that you are about to meet them on the battlefield but we are leaving our tanks and planes at home.
Dude, even if you don't plan on using that stuff, at the very least you should keep it on the table.
Stupid.
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:42 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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frick gd stupid laws.
Why didn't the Ds change them when they had the chance?
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:43 am to wickowick
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Why would they introduce anything before they take control of the Senate?
Exactly. Reid won't let anything pass. Obama wants a bill give him a bill the day after republicans take control of both houses.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:45 am to TheFolker
Because Dems are stupid too. And the biggest problem was Obama was soft and tried to compromise too much.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:47 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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the biggest problem was Obama was soft and tried to compromise too much.
You can't be serious.
Links to stated compromise attempts?
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:48 am to dante
quote:The cost of services would increase likewise.
If we had fewer illegals here the cost of wages would have to increase to get people off the gov teat.
But the bigger issue is Americans not applying for those jobs.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:49 am to TOKEN
How about we enforce the laws we have in place?
I know... Just an INSANE though, right?
I know... Just an INSANE though, right?
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:51 am to TOKEN
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The idea is to shame and embarrass Obama by flipping the script. Force him into something he doesn't want to sign but has too. The GOP needs an immigration strategy and being mad isn't one, nor is cutting down Hispanics. Present the best damn border security this country has ever seen. If you want border security then you have the president by the balls, now.
I don't think you understand, that we have an immigration law in place that works. We aren't enforcing it. That is the reason there is any crisis. Lack of enforcement of the current laws. Let me pull it up for you.
Immigration and Nationalization Act of 1952
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The Act abolished racial restrictions found in United States immigration and naturalization statutes going back to the Naturalization Act of 1790, which had limited naturalization to immigrants who were "free white persons" of "good moral character." The 1952 Act retained a quota system for nationalities and regions. Eventually, the Act established a preference system which determined which ethnic groups were desirable immigrants and placed great importance on labor qualifications.
The Act defined three types of immigrants: immigrants with special skills or relatives of U.S. citizens who were exempt from quotas and who were to be admitted without restrictions; average immigrants whose numbers were not supposed to exceed 270,000 per year; and refugees.
The Act allowed the government to deport immigrants or naturalized citizens engaged in subversive activities and also allowed the barring of suspected subversives from entering the country. It was used to bar members and former members and "fellow travelers" of the Communist Party from entry into the United States, even those who had not been associated with the party for decades.
It expanded the definition of the "United States" for nationality purposes, which already included Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands to add Guam. Persons born in these territories on or after December 24, 1952 acquire U.S. citizenship at birth on the same terms as persons born in other parts of the United States.[5]
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The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 requires an alien to apply for a petition for naturalization. This form may be obtained from any office of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, a division of the Department of Justice, or from any court authorized to naturalize aliens.
Before applying, an alien must be at least 18 years old and must have been lawfully admitted to live permanently in the United States. He must have lived in the United States for five years and for the last six months in the state where he seeks to be naturalized. In some cases, he need only have lived three years in the United States. He must be of good moral character and "attached to the principles of the Constitution". The law states that an alien is not of good moral character if he is a drunkard, has committed adultery, has more than one wife, makes his living by gambling, has lied to the Immigration and Naturalization Service, has been in jail more than 180 days for any reason during his five years in the United States, or is a convicted murderer.
Anyone care to guess why we are restricted to 270,000 a year? Or why there are restrictions on how many can come into the US?
Because you have to be able to manage the population growth so the economy does not crash. You also must be able to know who is coming into your country and conduct proper screenings. This also helps the immigrants assimilate to the country.
And that's something the left doesn't want. Assimilation. It's one thing to show pride in where you come from, and to keep your identity, but it's another thing to just become a citizen by process, but do nothing to become a part of that culture.
Also, another thing the left hates, is when the subject of speaking English is brought up. This country is an English as 1st language, speaking country. By not requiring immigrants to learn English, you are basically ensuring them poverty. An immigrant who can not speak English will never rise above general labor. It is a fact.
Obama has completely subverted this law in 1 Executive Edict.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:59 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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frick gd stupid laws. I absolutely hate it when people want a stupid arse law enforced. It is the height of stupidity IMO.
Now you're just trolling
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:02 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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frick gd stupid laws.
I absolutely hate it when people want a stupid arse law enforced. It is the height of stupidity IMO.
For a fairly intelligent person, you say some incredibly stupid things.
You're above this.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:05 am to NC_Tigah
quote:Correct, I did that leave out...my mistake
The cost of services would increase likewise.
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But the bigger issue is Americans not applying for those jobs.
Because the government is incentivizing them not to at this point.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:08 am to TOKEN
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The idea is to shame and embarrass Obama by flipping the script. Force him into something he doesn't want to sign but has too. The GOP needs an immigration strategy and being mad isn't one, nor is cutting down Hispanics. Present the best damn border security this country has ever seen. If you want border security then you have the president by the balls, now.
You think the GOP's gonna get its shite together to actually do something?
They're going to squander this opportunity have. You can take that to the bank.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:10 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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frick gd stupid laws. I absolutely hate it when people want a stupid arse law enforced. It is the height of stupidity IMO.
I mean what kind of stupid country would have a stupid law that says you cant just cross their border on a whim...I bet that stupid country has a stupid law that says there must be a process by which to gain citizenship...stupid, bro
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:29 am to dante
quote:exactly
Because the government is incentivizing them not to at this point.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:29 am to Toddy
Well the GOP is so mad that they can't even think straight.
They are playing right into Obamas hands.
They are playing right into Obamas hands.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:33 am to TOKEN
quote:That genius was directly responsible for the slaughter on Nov 4 but thought he would have more success governing with fewer Dems in D.C.....interesting strategy.......he can do more with less.
They are playing right into Obamas hands.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:35 am to TOKEN
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Well the GOP is so mad that they can't even think straight.
They are so mad they voted all of his friends out of office.
January is going to be fun.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:24 am to gatorrocks
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You think the GOP's gonna get its shite together to actually do something? They're going to squander this opportunity have. You can take that to the bank.
From my little time study all this
Seems the GOP does dropped political gifts
But Obama had it all too
Obama had probably one of the friendliest media environments ever, Obama had full control, and had all the momentum in back in 2008. He choose division, he gambled thinking he could sway Americans to the radical left way of thinking, his thinking the Dems would still keep the Senate carried his governing ways, and it seems Obama just couldn't help himself with the power he was given when the time came to work with others. Unfortunately Obama is nothing but politics, and that's a good thing in some situations, but one can't let it control every decision one makes for our Country. Thsi might be Obama's biggest hurtle for him saving this terrible presidential legacy he got right now. There's one thing I can think of that would change everyone's mind on Obama. Or at least make them think serious about what has all taken place under Obama. All it would take is one brilliant speech at the end of his Presidency and we'd have a pretty historical moment probably. Whether the speech would be true or not true really wouldn't matter either. Thsi speech would still have much weight on everyone's thoughts on what Obama has done over 8 years. But that's a whole other long scattered brained post I'll save you all from ......lol
Seems both parties jsut can't help themselves when their given an advantage or power. Our founders didn't get everything right, but they understood human nature concerning abusing power. Now it helped our founders had thousands of years of examples with humans nature with how some handled powerful governmental powers. Shoot we have to go no further than a classroom to learn that lesson though. When a teacher leaves a student in charge of a classroom while leaving for a bit. Every one of those students will handle that power given to them differently when the teacher finally leaves. Some students will let others be, some wil force other students to do what they want, some will ask nicely to do this, some won't be so nice about things, some will only intervene when necessary, some won't. Some students would lie & spin to explain their actions to other students. Some would be truthful to why they're doing what they're doing to the students. There's other examples of what those students could and would do with that given power, but I hope I made my point understandable.
Now some say Obama holds much responsibility for the Democrats losing a record number of seats over 4 year period. Plus, havign Republican Governors elected in states that never elected a Republican Governors in their History. Was very telling and those Democrat Governor loses is the most telling story of how bad the elections where for Democrats.
My point in all this above is both parties overstep their bounds, and dropped the ball when gifted great power & trust.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:25 am to Colonel Flagg
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Republicans - Increase Border Security and deport people back to their home countries. We have a legal way to citizenship. Democrats - Just let everyone in and don't enforce the law
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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