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re: So now that illegals will have to pay taxes, will Mexicans cost more?

Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:51 pm to
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:51 pm to
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"Now, I know some people want me to bypass Congress and change the laws on my own. Believe me, the idea of doing things on my own is very tempting. I promise you. Not just on immigration reform. But that's not how our system works. That's not how our democracy functions. That's not how our Constitution is written."-- B. Obama, July 25, 2011

"There are those in the immigrants’ rights community who have argued passionately that we should simply provide those who are (here) illegally with legal status, or at least ignore the laws on the books and put an end to deportation until we have better laws. ... I believe such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally that there will be no repercussions for such a decision.

And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration. And it would also ignore the millions of people around the world who are waiting in line to come here legally. Ultimately, our nation, like all nations, has the right and obligation to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship. And no matter how decent they are, no matter their reasons, the 11 million who broke these laws should be held accountable." -- B. Obama, July 1, 2010
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18856 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:05 pm to
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"Now, I know some people want me to bypass Congress and change the laws on my own. Believe me, the idea of doing things on my own is very tempting. I promise you. Not just on immigration reform. But that's not how our system works. That's not how our democracy functions. That's not how our Constitution is written."-- B. Obama, July 25, 2011

"There are those in the immigrants’ rights community who have argued passionately that we should simply provide those who are (here) illegally with legal status, or at least ignore the laws on the books and put an end to deportation until we have better laws. ... I believe such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally that there will be no repercussions for such a decision.

And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration. And it would also ignore the millions of people around the world who are waiting in line to come here legally. Ultimately, our nation, like all nations, has the right and obligation to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship. And no matter how decent they are, no matter their reasons, the 11 million who broke these laws should be held accountable." -- B. Obama, July 1, 2010



Dis here might just qualify for the poli board.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65810 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:06 pm to
How many do you know that are illegal and have struggled for years to get legal while illegally working their asses off at jobs even white trash losers wouldn't take?

Because I know a few, and this is a step in the right direction.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 11:07 pm
Posted by ags01
Member since Mar 2006
3885 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:11 pm to
Davis-Bacon yo.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18856 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 12:23 am to
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How many do you know that are illegal and have struggled for years to get legal while illegally working their asses off at jobs even white trash losers wouldn't take?


None ... but I know a guy that that has been trying to become a U.S. citizen the legal way and your president just moved 5 million of your brothers ahead of him.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65810 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 12:36 am to
Or he saved them from being deported. All the ones I know were in support of Obama tonight, and SW MO has a ton of illegal Hispanics.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 12:38 am to
hell they'll probably go back home.


The IRS has more bite to it's bark than any other government entity.
Posted by Tru Adam3000
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
229 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:10 am to
I think they should tax the employer more money where it comes out the same as they were paying a american if they wish to have illegals on their payroll.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68689 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:35 am to
Just because they are illegal doesn't mean they weren't paying taxes. Some just use family members names and ss that are legal. And usually get paid more because they actually work harder.

There are Americans that take cash paying jobs and don't pay taxes.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 1:39 am
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10401 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:34 am to
The people getting paid cash will continue to get paid cash.
the employers do not want to pay employer taxes i.e. obamacare $2500 penalty per employee.

Obama lied to the entire country for 30 minutes continuously.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:06 am to
It's funny that you think they'll pay taxes.

If anything, we'll just give them tax refunds.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
24585 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:08 am to
They'll just quit working and draw benefits like other groups do.
Posted by LSUWrangler
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
365 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:49 am to
I'm optimistic about this whole thing. With 5,000,000 new people that should be paying tax, when in actuality, only about 100,000 will, maybe the IRS will be overwhelmed and quit nitpicking the hell out of good hard working citizens.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:50 am to
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With 5,000,000 new people that should be paying tax, when in actuality, only about 100,000 will, maybe the IRS will be overwhelmed and quit nitpicking the hell out of good hard working citizens.

I'm guessing MAYBE 10k will pay the taxes.

They didn't want to pay taxes. They wanted "citizenship" without having to pay for it.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18856 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:08 am to
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All the ones I know were in support of Obama tonight, ...


ding, ding, ding. There it is. You don't have to say anymore.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:26 am to
This exec ordered didn't change a thing. This population was not getting deported, they could apply and recieved work permits and SS # without a hassle.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79234 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:32 am to
Nobody is signing up for that shite
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:37 am to
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What's the going rate on a Mexican now?



probly still by the pound?
Posted by LOCO5150
NWA
Member since Sep 2011
4867 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:42 am to
An even better question:

Do you think that Mexicans ever say, "All those damn jobs are taking all of our good Mexicans"?
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:51 am to
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An even better question: Do you think that Mexicans ever say, "All those damn jobs are taking all of our good Mexicans"?


Interesting question. Soon they will only have drug cartels and crooked politicians.
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