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re: What do some of you not understand about Brandon Harris??

Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:16 am to
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:16 am to
It should have been a 2 QB system to begin with. Rotate them until one seperates, or one starts costing you games. Instead we went with 1 and stick with him no matter how many games he costs us.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29266 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:20 am to
if jennings beat out rivers and rettig that quickly how bad were those two QB's? seriously... they must be freaking AWFUL
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:42 am to
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if jennings beat out rivers and rettig that quickly how bad were those two QB's? seriously... they must be freaking AWFUL


Rettig not becoming a starter shocked me. Mett killed his career.
Posted by rjlsu985
Slidell, la
Member since Apr 2012
130 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:46 am to
Mett didn't kill his career here. Not having a fair shot at the starting job led him to leave.
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
6929 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:48 am to
If Harris isn't ready then what is Jennings? At Harris' worst he's still looked better than Jennings does sometimes... Harris has the higher ceiling and more talent, there should be no reason he isn't starting.

And Harris had one bad game and is tossed out... Jennings hasn't had a good game this year at all and looked 50x worse vs NMSU than Harris did against Auburn.
Posted by thanksjhester
Sonic
Member since Jun 2009
5410 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:06 am to
Seems to me both aren't ready, but Harris has the bigger upside so why not let him take the field and gain experience. That's really a no brainer.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:12 am to
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so why not let him take the field and gain experience

Because Miles is paid to win football games, not to give players game time experience. So Miles will do whatever he thinks gives his team the best chance to win. Apparently he thinks Jennings give them that chance.

There really isn't anything deeper to see here, no conspiracies, no dog houses, no payoffs or filthy pictures. It has everything to do with winning.

THAT'S a 'no-brainer'.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:14 am to
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It has everything to do with winning.


Which we haven't done lately....so there goes your argument.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:21 am to
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Which we haven't done lately....so there goes your argument.

So you think any team that has lost any games doesn't want to win?

Maybe you don't understand the concept of "best chance to win".

You see that slanty word, "chance", that's called a chance because it's not a certainty. Just because one QB isn't winning games does NOT necessarily mean that if we switched QBs we would suddenly be winning.

When you grow up and get a job one day, maybe you will understand about being focused on doing what you have to to keep your job. That won't include just doing what all your friends think you should do. You see, because it's not your friends' jobs that will be on the line, it will be yours.

Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73492 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Seems to me both aren't ready, but Harris has the bigger upside so why not let him take the field and gain experience. That's really a no brainer.

Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:45 am to
Typical bullshite excuse for Harris not starting: "Harris looked bad against Auburn"

Reality: Jennings looked just as bad against MsSt, Auburn, NmSt, Bama, and Arkansas

But yet Jennings is still under center go figure.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:47 am to
It wouldn't appear, at least at the current time, that Miles has the ability to focus....or see the forest for the trees for that matter.

Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:48 am to
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When you grow up and get a job one day, maybe you will understand about being focused on doing what you have to to keep your job. That won't include just doing what all your friends think you should do. You see, because it's not your friends' jobs that will be on the line, it will be yours.


Well, I'M certainly grown up and have been reasonably successful in my career and can tell you that in this grown up world to which you refer, there is more than one way to skin a cat or run a football team. I've passed up plenty of HARD WORKERS that busted their arse to no avail because they simply didn't have the same God-given tools. Sad but true. I've also left agencies and businesses that were stuck in such a rut that they couldn't see that working smart surpassed working hard. I'm not saying that hard work is not important, but the notion that the approach can't be adjusted to get the most from your resources is utter bullshite and the mindset of those that will find themselves falling further and further behind.
Other than disciplinary action, I can't come up with any logical reason why Harris has not at least been worked into games to avoid the potential of this same problem next season.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:14 pm to
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Other than disciplinary action, I can't come up with any logical reason why Harris has not at least been worked into games

I doubt you're very successful with that kind of shortsightedness.

I can think of a myriad of reasons besides disciplinary action. You even alluded to one of them early in your post and that you can't think of it later in your post just leads me to believe you just don't want to consider it.
Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:23 pm to
Fair enough, it's a message board and you can doubt whatever you want.

I have no desire to play word games with you and if you're insinuating that maybe he doesn't have the God-given talent to succeed at this position, I didn't consider it because I've watched the games and seen otherwise. Has nothing to do with what I want to consider.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64654 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:25 pm to
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It has everything to do with winning.

THAT'S a 'no-brainer'.



So then let the players play and try to win.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26631 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:31 pm to
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You get better by putting in time at practice and in film study and letting the coaches coach. You don't improve by going out half-cocked and playing, getting sacked, throwing INTs, fumbling, and screwing up in general in a live game. All that does is cause humiliation and self-doubt which can become almost impossible to correct.


Brad Kaaya, JT Barrett
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:35 pm to
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maybe he doesn't have the God-given talent to succeed at this position, I didn't consider it

And so you reject it as a logical reason?

This isn't a word game, words have meaning. If you still can't come up with even more logical reasons, I have plenty more I could share.

But for now, personally, I'm going with the reason that the coaching staff, through hours and hours of evaluation have determined that Jennings - at this point in time - gives the team the best chance to win. And considering that it's their jobs on the line and not mine, I'm going to go ahead and give them the benefit of the doubt because I think they've earned it through their record at LSU.
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Has nothing to do with what I want to consider.

I think you, and probably many others on the board, have your mind made up and so it's narrowing your perspective. The obvious answer is obvious, yet you want to reject it because it doesn't fit your view. You see what you want to see. The coaches, on the other hand, have seen a HELL of a lot more, and actually have skin in the game.

Hell, the way this staff plays their hand so close to the vest, even an injury would be a logical reason at this point. Yet you want to believe it's punitive and can't see anything else - by your own admission.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9924 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:40 pm to
There is a difference between procedure and execution. Les believes that AJ knows the process better and thus frustrates him less. The fan base believes Harris executes better and thus frustrates them less. In the end, the head coach, not the fans, gets to make the final decision. This makes the fans angry.

That is what we understand.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:42 pm to
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I can think of a myriad of reasons besides disciplinary action


Care to name them?
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