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Why has the term 'Jingoism' fallen out of use?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:45 pm
When I walked onto the campus of Centenary during the Vietnam War, I kept reading campus newspaper debates and jingoism was a common charge from the left.
Since 1980 I have never seen the word in speech nor in print. Do any of you old timers remember the term?
Since 1980 I have never seen the word in speech nor in print. Do any of you old timers remember the term?
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:46 pm to Zach
What is that supposed to mean?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:48 pm to upgrayedd
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What is that supposed to mean?
Being super patriotic
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:50 pm to upgrayedd
Nationalism, anti-multiculturalism, anti-world govt? Ya got me. There was another term we used called WOMP back the 60s.
World Order Model Project. It was pretty simple. World govt = no nations. No nations = no wars since if there is not another nation to fight you cannot have war. Ultimate and permanent peace.
World Order Model Project. It was pretty simple. World govt = no nations. No nations = no wars since if there is not another nation to fight you cannot have war. Ultimate and permanent peace.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:51 pm to Zach
sounds racist. Jingos can't like that gonna have to change those mascots and nicknames.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:51 pm to Zach
Neo-con is the new term for this IMHO. Not the same thing but its an attempt at a smear.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:51 pm to Zach
Because xenophobic hegemony sounds more ominous? But I have heard jingoism used during the Bush admin.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:54 pm to Zach
quote:
World Order Model Project. It was pretty simple. World govt = no nations. No nations = no wars since if there is not another nation to fight you cannot have war. Ultimate and permanent peace.
So, the John Lennon utopia?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:54 pm to Zach
The Brits still use it, I think.
During the summer, some reporters over there were mad that Rickie Fowler had an American flag hair cut for the Ryder Cup.
Called the haircut "Thuggish Jingoism"
During the summer, some reporters over there were mad that Rickie Fowler had an American flag hair cut for the Ryder Cup.
Called the haircut "Thuggish Jingoism"
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:57 pm to Hawkeye95
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Neo-con is the new term for this IMHO
Yeah, I can see that. In terms of language abuse my biggest pet peeve is 'fascist'. It means whatever you want it to mean.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:58 pm to Zach
Jingoism is now used only by Rolling Stone and/or movie critics in reviewing movies relating to war.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:01 pm to Zach
2012 apparently ...
Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:02 pm to Zach
I would tend to agree fascist is over-played but it really means something pretty specific. They probably mean tyrant when they use it.
Communist is the same thing. Its pretty specific on what it means but people toss it around - socialist is the appropriate term.
Communist is the same thing. Its pretty specific on what it means but people toss it around - socialist is the appropriate term.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:04 pm to Zach
Maybe the Jingo ate your baby...
Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:08 pm to arcalades
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sounds racist. Jingos can't like that gonna have to change those mascots and nicknames.
Can someone translate?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:49 pm to Hawkeye95
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I would tend to agree fascist is over-played but it really means something pretty specific. They probably mean tyrant when they use it.
But that includes all forms of what we called 'Toto' back in the 80s. Not the dog in Wizard of Oz. Short for Totalitarianism. It included:
Monarchy
Dictatorship
Communism
Socialism
Nazism
Home Owner's Associations
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:56 pm to Vegas Bengal
Thanks. That is exactly the same kind of rhetoric and political cartoons I remember from the 60s. The language is mindless and lacks conciseness.
The cartoons remind me of this:
Keep on Truckin'!
The cartoons remind me of this:
Keep on Truckin'!
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:58 pm to lsu480
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Being super patriotic
I think more nationalisitc than patriotic.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:03 pm to Zach
Zach,
I am pretty sure the left (and others) continued to use the term pretty steadily throug the Iraq War. Toby Keith's (can't recall title) about our response to 9/11 was often derided as "jingoistic." I agree that you don't hear the term as much lately but I suspect that a Democratic president is less likely to be described as "jingoistic" as those on the left are more likely to levy that critique.
I am pretty sure the left (and others) continued to use the term pretty steadily throug the Iraq War. Toby Keith's (can't recall title) about our response to 9/11 was often derided as "jingoistic." I agree that you don't hear the term as much lately but I suspect that a Democratic president is less likely to be described as "jingoistic" as those on the left are more likely to levy that critique.
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