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Coaching complacency
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:43 am
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:43 am
It's human nature to become complacent when no one is holding you accountable, especially if you have a guaranteed contract. Win or lose, Les will still get his 4.3-4.5 million, and his assistants will get their salaries as well. In essence, the university is held hostage by Les' contract and buyout. To make matters worse, he can up and leave whenever he wants, leaving LSU high and dry.
We all know Les is not going anywhere for awhile. Don't know if this legal or not, but why not see if it is possible for the LSU Board of Supervisors to restructure the FB coaches' salaries on an incentive basis. Whatever their base salaries are, they get one twelfth of their salaries for a win, and nothing for a loss. Keep the present post season incentives in place. This is certainly a way to make sure the coaches are doing their best in recruiting, player development, and game planning. If you don't have confidence in your coaching abilities, don't take the job or resign from your present job. Besides any saved monies could be used for potential buyouts.
Sounds far fetched and next to possible to implement, but most corporate executive and all pro athlete contracts are production based. Perform or you won't last long. Just tired of LSU paying tons of money for coaches who may not be performing to the best of their abilities. We'll certainly never get the truth from Les, Alleva, or the media.
We all know Les is not going anywhere for awhile. Don't know if this legal or not, but why not see if it is possible for the LSU Board of Supervisors to restructure the FB coaches' salaries on an incentive basis. Whatever their base salaries are, they get one twelfth of their salaries for a win, and nothing for a loss. Keep the present post season incentives in place. This is certainly a way to make sure the coaches are doing their best in recruiting, player development, and game planning. If you don't have confidence in your coaching abilities, don't take the job or resign from your present job. Besides any saved monies could be used for potential buyouts.
Sounds far fetched and next to possible to implement, but most corporate executive and all pro athlete contracts are production based. Perform or you won't last long. Just tired of LSU paying tons of money for coaches who may not be performing to the best of their abilities. We'll certainly never get the truth from Les, Alleva, or the media.
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:44 am to PayLesLess
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PayLesLess
Yeah, and they said you'd regret making this name. Look who's the genius now!!
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:44 am to PayLesLess
I think next year Les will have to start coaching with the fear that his job could be at stake in the near future.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:45 am to PayLesLess
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To make matters worse, he can up and leave whenever he wants
That's a good thing. Don't want any obstacles to his departure
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:56 am to PayLesLess
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Sounds far fetched and next to possible to implement, but most corporate executive and all pro athlete contracts are production based.
No they aren't. Athletes are pushed to perform generally by their own will for greatness, or their next contract. But they generally don't tie most or all of their salary to any performance based standard. Drew Brees gets most of his money whether he has a winning or losing season.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:01 am to SammyTiger
But the only way to get a new contract with more money and security is to perform and produce exceptionally well, especially when your existing contract is expiring, ala Ingram this year.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:51 am to PayLesLess
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But the only way to get a new contract with more money and security is to perform and produce exceptionally well, especially when your existing contract is expiring, ala Ingram this year.
Thats still different than what you described. Les has a huge salary because he has won a shite ton of games.
He isn't even the second highest paid coach in the SEC. (That would be Kevin Sumlin who has 0 championships and has the same record we have this year)
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:10 am to SammyTiger
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Thats still different than what you described. Les has a huge salary because he has won a shite ton of games.
He isn't even the second highest paid coach in the SEC.
You should try reading better. I did not say executive and all pro athlete contracts are incentive based, although there certainly are incentive clauses in both contracts. I actually said "most corporate executive and all pro athlete contracts are production based." The incentive based, novel concept of coaches contracts was proposed in the second paragraph. Obviously, that would be even more stringent than a production only contract.
Les' contract is so huge because of an incentive clause in his contract regarding winning the NC, and because Arkansas duped Aleva into giving him a raise when they flirted with him in 2012. It was never because of the "shite ton of games" that he won. If his contract was win based, he would be second only to Saban.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:54 am to PayLesLess
This thread is not based in reality.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:18 am to PayLesLess
Your problem should be with Aleva. He is the one that hung the albatross around our necks. You want Les to win and he laid a 1/9/12 arse whooping all over Aleva with his last contract negotiation.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:29 am to PayLesLess
Seems more like fan complaceny
Posted on 11/17/14 at 6:55 am to PayLesLess
Miles is a joke and grossly overpaid. Just about everyone else who makes a good living has to earn it. Les has not earned his pay. Nor has Cam Cameron who is also a joke. One tricking 2 loss national championship does not make you the elite. Especially when your teams possess top tier talent each year. I'm done with that clown.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:54 am to PayLesLess
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Les' contract is so huge because of an incentive clause in his contract regarding winning the NC
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It was never because of the "shite ton of games" that he won.
So it is incentive based (winning a championship_, and if he hadn't won a ton of games, we probably wouldn't have thought it necessary to give him a raise to keep him.
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If his contract was win based, he would be second only to Saban.
So you are saying we are getting him at a deal.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:40 am to SammyTiger
You sure you graduated.
Without the NC, he probably gets more reasonable raises over time based on his production (wins). He doesn't get that huge bump that LSU has been paying since 2008. If Arkansas doesn't fake out Alleva in 2012, I doubt he gets his last raise. That NC has paid dividends for him in more ways than one.
I obviously don't think Les comes cheaply. Just shooting holes in your reasoning that his 4.3-4.5 is due to the shite ton of wins.
Without the NC, he probably gets more reasonable raises over time based on his production (wins). He doesn't get that huge bump that LSU has been paying since 2008. If Arkansas doesn't fake out Alleva in 2012, I doubt he gets his last raise. That NC has paid dividends for him in more ways than one.
I obviously don't think Les comes cheaply. Just shooting holes in your reasoning that his 4.3-4.5 is due to the shite ton of wins.
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