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Philae, Comet 67p and American exceptionalism
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:54 am
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:54 am
From what I am reading, and I admit I just started following this, it looks as if Europe is taking the lead over the USA when is comes to successful space exploration.
For you old timers out there, how does that make you feel? The space race was, at one point, the defining pursuit of national exceptionalism.
For you old timers out there, how does that make you feel? The space race was, at one point, the defining pursuit of national exceptionalism.
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:57 am to theunknownknight
NASA's mission is to confirm global warming and muslim accomplishments. Landing spacecrafts on non terrestrial bodies is so 1960's.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:58 am to theunknownknight
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For you old timers out there, how does that make you feel?
NASA is now a Muslim outreach program, and a mouthpiece for the global warming crowd. THAT is what makes us exceptional.
And don't call me old timer.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:06 am to theunknownknight
We(America) need to revisit our exploratory roots on a level that people can understand and get excited about. We have become so risk averse that it seems to be paralyzing the rocket and exploration programs. Couple that with the secrecy that surrounds true innovation and we are losing our place.
This is a major accomplishment by the Esa and one that should be celebrated.
This is a major accomplishment by the Esa and one that should be celebrated.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:06 am to theunknownknight
[quote]From what I am reading, and I admit I just started following this, it looks as if Europe is taking the lead over the USA when is comes to successful space exploration. For you old timers out there, how does that make you feel? The space race was, at one point, the defining pursuit of national exceptionalism.
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NASA is literally a shell of what it was 25 yrs ago, unless something changes within the soul of this country American exceptionalism is probably over in any endeavors.
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NASA is literally a shell of what it was 25 yrs ago, unless something changes within the soul of this country American exceptionalism is probably over in any endeavors.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:07 am to theunknownknight
If you want to spend all of your money on entitlements then you cannot afford space programs. It is that simple. When budgets get cut all you have money to do is be a PR Firm for Science stuff (ie global warming).
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:08 am to theunknownknight
Happening in ~2 hours and I'll be watching.
NASA's role has evolved. Its next main goal is to land a government sponsored packet of RU-486 on a Riyadh drugstore counter by 2018.
NASA's role has evolved. Its next main goal is to land a government sponsored packet of RU-486 on a Riyadh drugstore counter by 2018.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:12 am to theunknownknight
Welcome to a more global, homogenized community where ideas and data travel faster than ever before. The USA cannot continue to be and should not be expected to lead all things scientific into the future. It's not a rebuke of America that Europe did this. In fact, we should celebrate the fact that the world at large is capable of such amazing feats.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 11:32 am
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:14 am to son of arlo
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Its next main goal is to land a government sponsored packet of RU-486 on a Riyadh drugstore counter by 2018.
One group of engineers will calculate in meters and the other in feet and they'll miss the drugstore counter by a trillion miles.
To think we landed on the moon nearly 50 years ago with painfully limited tecnology. We lost something since then.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:14 am to theunknownknight
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From what I am reading, and I admit I just started following this, it looks as if Europe is taking the lead over the USA when is comes to successful space exploration.
How are they taking a lead?
Do you have any idea of the projects NASA is currently working on?
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:16 am to Jay Quest
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We lost something since then.
Humanity just landed on a freaking comet! We are going to drill into it and see the beginnings of the universe for the first time in human history. How can you say something has been lost?
Unfettered nationalism is NOT a good thing.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:18 am to theunknownknight
NASA's last try, October 28, 2014
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:20 am to CollegeFBRules
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Humanity just landed on a freaking comet!
That's an entirely different discussion from the one at hand. If you want to have an "up with people" discusiion I'm right there with you. We're talking about a diminisment in one particular area of humanity, the U.S. space program.
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Unfettered nationalism is NOT a good thing.
Good lord
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 11:21 am
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:21 am to theunknownknight
The fact that space exploration has become more of a global endeavor, as opposed to an American vs. Russian endeavor, should be applauded.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:21 am to CollegeFBRules
Yeah this homogenized society that is being engineered by the global elitists is going to back fire and the US will regret having shared all of it's technological, industrial and military knowledge with the world.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:23 am to JoeMoTiger
Doesn't NASA currently have a rover exploring Mars?
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:24 am to theunknownknight
So I take it we're just forgetting about Curiosity?
One of the most amazing engineering accomplishments in human history is continuing to evaluate the surface of Mars (while sending us pictures of it all), and we're pissed that the ESA, with the help of NASA, has landed on a comet.
One of the most amazing engineering accomplishments in human history is continuing to evaluate the surface of Mars (while sending us pictures of it all), and we're pissed that the ESA, with the help of NASA, has landed on a comet.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:25 am to Jay Quest
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We're talking about a diminisment in one particular area of humanity, the U.S. soace program.
No, you're talking about the inability to go it alone on space programs that are hellaciously expensive. Cooperatives with the rest of the world on such things are necessary for both the technical know-how and cost sharing.
Can you imagine what America's space program would even be without foreign nationals who have come here to study the advanced degree programs necessary to traverse space? Go look up the statistics on just how many American born students are able to fill the science and engineering degree programs at our universities. The numbers are depressing.
We need the rest of the world more than many of you wish to acknowledge.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:27 am to CollegeFBRules
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Unfettered nationalism is NOT a good thing.
Unfettered.. probably but nationalism can concentrate pride that propels innovation in a competitive endeavor that is beneficial to all technology. The Esa and their differing members desires can not provide the pointed focus that NASA is capable of providing with the right leadership and goals
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:27 am to JoeMoTiger
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Yeah this homogenized society that is being engineered by the global elitists is going to back fire and the US will regret having shared all of it's technological, industrial and military knowledge with the world.
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