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Germany abolishes college tuition fees

Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:43 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:43 pm
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Prospective students in the United States who can’t afford to pay for college or don’t want to rack up tens of thousands in student debt should try their luck in Germany. Higher education is now free throughout the country, even for international students. Yesterday, Lower Saxony became the last of seven German states to abolish tuition fees, which were already extremely low compared to those paid in the United States.

“We got rid of tuition fees because we do not want higher education which depends on the wealth of the parents,” Gabrielle Heinen-Kjajic, the minister for science and culture in Lower Saxony, said in a statement. Her words were echoed by many in the German government. “Tuition fees are unjust,” said Hamburg’s senator for science Dorothee Stapelfeldt. “They discourage young people who do not have a traditional academic family background from taking up study. It is a core task of politics to ensure that young women and men can study with a high quality standard free of charge in Germany.”


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This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 5:45 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:44 pm to
Good for them
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:45 pm to
Wow. That's a bold move.
Posted by Beachtiger
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:46 pm to
everything should be free. including lunch.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:46 pm to
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Wow. That's a bold move.
It really isn't. Most European nations don't charge tuition. It actually costs the government less than our way of doing things here (through loans).
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:47 pm to
So basically it's just an extension of high school now.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:47 pm to
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everything should be free. including lunch.

Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:48 pm to
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Most European nations don't charge tuition.


Even for international students? I had no idea.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:50 pm to
So what is the value of a college degree now?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:52 pm to
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So what is the value of a college degree now?


What was it before? It's not like they are handing out diplomas. You still have to earn that part regardless of how much tuition you paid right?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:52 pm to
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So what is the value of a college degree now?
Germany as a whole probably has better universities than the US, but it's close.
Posted by THRILLHO
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:52 pm to
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even for international student


So spend tax dollars to educate people that will leave the country as soon as they start making money?

Maybe the US should stop subsidizing/paying for so many people's educations and just buy them a plane ticket. Would save us a ton of money.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:53 pm to
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Germany as a whole probably has better universities than the US, but it's close.


I've got to think an engineering degree from Germany would be fairly impressive.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:56 pm to
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Germany as a whole probably has better universities than the US, but it's close.


Um, what?

Not even close. They're pretty good, but no.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:56 pm to
Ja

1941 too.




Unbelievable. Its a good thing Hitler had no clue how to use it
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:57 pm to
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Ja

1941 too.


Now you're just fricking with me.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:58 pm to
I believe it is pretty difficult to attend college in germany, and it has to do with how education is structured there. Basically when you are ten years old you take a test. Based on the results, you either attend a "realschule", a "hauptschule", or a "gymasnium". Students at the former two are taught trades like plumbing, and maybe can attend a trade school. Students in the gymnasium, placed there due to intellectual superiority, are prepped for college. Students at the gymnasium take the "Abitur", which is kind of like ACT/SAT. It is a very comprehensive and difficult test, and determines which colleges you can attend.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:59 pm to
Good for them.

We could easily send every kid to college that wanted to go with the money we pay into the bottomless pit of the welfare state.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 6:01 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:00 pm to
?

Are you German?

Was agreeing in the fine engineering history of the German people. Also am a history and flying buff. The 262 is beauty up close. We have one in P"cola.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:00 pm to
Where as, the students we send to the "Gymnasium" get a free ride for a year or two of "Sports Business" before they go pro.
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