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Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:27 am
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:27 am
How to remove this crap. Tried thru the control panel, but doesn't show up. Even under programs, it doesn't show up. It's there bc it keeps asking to do a scan.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28709 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:36 am to
I don't think it can be uninstalled, but you can disable it. Search for Defender in the control panel.
Posted by Majtj236
Member since Dec 2004
1268 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:39 am to
Fish... It's a service. Just simply turn it off.

To turn it off type services.msc into the Start Menu search box. Scroll down to Windows Defender, double click and change Start up Type to "Disabled".
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:48 am to
Tried that and no go.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:51 am to
if you are running windows 8 and up, its the best there is
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:11 am to
Running windows 7. Guess it's time to place this laptop. Been having it in service for almost 4 years. The last two only lasted 3 years.
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12310 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:22 am to
Doesn't sound like that's the legit Windows Defender

I think you might have a program acting like Windows Defender if none of those suggestions work.
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:48 am to
quote:

I think you might have a program acting like Windows Defender if none of those suggestions work.



That is what I'm thinking. Every time I try to down load a Malware program, a security window pops up blocking everything.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:01 pm to
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Every time I try to down load a Malware program, a security window pops up blocking everything.


Well, if you're actually trying to get an infection then it is simply doing its job.

Why would you want to do this, btw? I didn't think you were a virus researcher, I thought you fished for, well, fish.

ETA: Or did you mean MalwareBytes? Cause most people really don't want malware, that's a different thing.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 12:03 pm
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39732 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:07 pm to
He meant maleware bytes.

Defender does not block this.

He has an infected comp.

Prayers sent.
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

ETA: Or did you mean MalwareBytes?


This. Hell you know what I mean. I'm a old man. Cut me some slack.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:19 pm to
Wasn't really sure, computer researchers do this all the time to set up what is called a "honeypot" to attract viruses for analysis. But someone who can do that probably wouldn't ask for help here, come to think of it.

Yeah, I'm thinking you don't really have Windows Defender, you may have that other kind of malware.
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

you may have that other kind of malware


So, is there anything I can do beside using my puter for a target?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:35 pm to
The machine can almost certainly be saved, especially if you have a backup. Do you?

Even if you don't, most viruses do not infect data files - only the executables. So another possibility would be to transfer the data to another drive and do a clean reinstall of Windows. Then install MalwareBytes, then reinstall all the software you had, then move the data back. It can be a bit involved though if you've never done that before.

That's actually what I do myself, with preplanning and a practice run or two it's actually pretty straightforward and takes much less hassle than trying to clean an infected system. But if you've never done it then it may be easier to just get a replacement for $400 or so, copy your data, and move on with life.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:37 pm to
I'll add that if it turns out your data files are infected, when when you do the copy from your infected machine then Malware Bytes + Windows Defender should clean them for you. In theory. If not, you may have to get to historical backups to get an uninfected version of those files.
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:10 pm to
I do have back up disk. I already tried a restore backing up over a month. That didn't help.

Tomorrow, I will let my daughter screw with it.

Thanks for your help.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:23 pm to
No problem. Consider also that you may be totally fine, just because Windows Defender normally doesn't do this doesn't mean you're screwed. It just looks odd.

That said, I do highly recommend to everyone that you try a disaster recovery dry run before you have to do it for real. It is immensely worth the time and money. All it takes is one blank hard drive (they're dirt cheap) and a weekend of violent cursing when you realize you are fricked despite having a "backup", but it's much better to learn how to do it correctly when it's just for practice.

What I do is just unplug my main drive and pretend it is completely unavailable. It generally takes me slightly over an hour to completely recover, and usually I never plug in the original drive and just carry on with the new one. Once you work through the first 2-3 times you'll work out the kinks and then you won't ever have to worry about this.
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 4:37 am to
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All it takes is one blank hard drive


How the hell would you do that on a laptop?
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