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re: More bad news about the new Terminator
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:27 pm to RonBurgundy
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:27 pm to RonBurgundy
I had heard at one point when Salvation came out, and this could have been total BS, that the plan was for John Connor to die at the end and have a reprogrammed Terminator take his place (looking like him, obviously) for the sequels.
That had potential not only for the continuation of the machines protecting humans from other machines plotline but also for the irony of essentially making the whole going back in time thing pointless for Skynet in the first place.
That had potential not only for the continuation of the machines protecting humans from other machines plotline but also for the irony of essentially making the whole going back in time thing pointless for Skynet in the first place.
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:47 pm to RonBurgundy
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A great opportunity was missed with Bale's John Conner.
Ain't that the truth? They could have told a canonical origin story of the resistance movement, starting the film just before the dawn of the human resistance. Instead they went against canon, portraying John Connor as a lieutenant in the resistance who is thought of as crazy by his superiors. That's not how it was laid out in the first two Terminator films.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:01 am to TigerMyth36
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Hated the last one so much, I don't care if the new one has 100% RT and Freaux proclaims it to be the peak of all film to date. I will not see it and I won't even stream the thing for free.
i'm with you. The first two are some of my favorite movies of all time, but this 'series' is dead to me.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:46 am to REG861
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The first two are some of my favorite movies of all time, but this 'series' is dead to me.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:02 am to RollTide1987
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Ain't that the truth? They could have told a canonical origin story of the resistance movement, starting the film just before the dawn of the human resistance. Instead they went against canon, portraying John Connor as a lieutenant in the resistance who is thought of as crazy by his superiors. That's not how it was laid out in the first two Terminator films.
You're forgetting that T-X killed all of John's top people at the beginning of T3. This altered the future as presented in T1 and 2.
Remember, the future is not set, there's no fate but what we make.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:11 am to BlacknGold
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she’s been raised by (brace yourself) Schwarzenegger’s Terminator—an older T-800 she calls “Pops”—who is programmed to guard rather than to kill
If this is the case, wouldn't she have recognized Arnold in the first terminator as Pops?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:17 am to WPBTiger
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If this is the case, wouldn't she have recognized Arnold in the first terminator as Pops?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:21 am to WPBTiger
The issue with the Terminator franchise is they started the story using Novikov self-consistency principle as the philosophical basis for their time traveling paradigm (ie Reese always being John's father) and then, at some point, smuggled in parallel universe logic into the story along the way.
Someone didn't understand it's either:
1. Lost
Or
2. Primer
not both
Someone didn't understand it's either:
1. Lost
Or
2. Primer
not both
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:23 am to theunknownknight
If you want to blame someone for that, blame Cameron himself considering the entire side plot of T2 revolved around them delaying judgment day off of August 29th, 1997.
And even in the original, Reese made it clear that he was from " one possible future"
And even in the original, Reese made it clear that he was from " one possible future"
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 7:27 am
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:26 am to Draconian Sanctions
I never accused Cameron of being a great writer 
Posted on 10/30/14 at 7:26 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Remember, the future is not set, there's no fate but what we make.
Stop it
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