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Brown is closing in on NH

Posted on 10/28/14 at 4:37 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 4:37 pm
Unexpectedly, Scott Brown has worked the NH Senate race into quite a contest ( LINK). The last debate was supposedly brutal for Shaheen. Brown would be an extremely good presence in the Senate, for both parties. Hopefully, he'll pull thru.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40154 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 4:51 pm to
So did he just move to NH after he lost in 2012? Either way I hope he wins.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76529 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 4:52 pm to
He's closed the gap in some polls from -10 to -1 in about a month.

We will see where the undecideds go.

New Hampshire is a funny state.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:02 pm to
They debate again Thursday night on statewide television. People in NH actually do watch debates and with this race so close, that one will be watched for the slightest mistake by either candidate. George Stephanopoulos will be co-moderator of the debate.

It's a good week to watch the four tight NH races, with Democratic incumbents defending all four positions. Last night, the 1st CD debate between incumbent Dem Carol Shea-Porter and former congressman Frank Guinta aired on CH. 9 and was considered by most to be a stalemate. Some polls show Shea-Porter in the lead, others show Guinta ahead. Flip a coin on this one. Tonight, 2nd CD incumbent Annie Kuster debates 31-yr-old Marilinda Garcia on ch.9, and tomorrow evening incumbent Gov. Maggie Hassan debates political newcomer Walt Havenstein. All debates air in that same 7-8 PM viewing time.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:09 pm to
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So did he just move to NH after he lost in 2012? Either way I hope he wins.


He was born with one foot in Maine and the other in NH at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard and was officially a resident of NH at birth. Much of his family always lived in NH and he has had a home here for many years. He "officially" moved his primary residence, as you guessed, after the 2012 elections. Shaheen is a Missouri transplant.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123954 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:09 pm to
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Last night, the 1st CD debate between incumbent Dem Carol Shea-Porter and former congressman Frank Guinta aired on CH. 9 and was considered by most to be a stalemate.
What is your opinion of Shaheen's performance vs Brown?
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:19 pm to
Brown is a sorry piece of dirt. There is no republican or conservative in this race.
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
7193 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:26 pm to
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What is your opinion of Shaheen's performance vs Brown?


The debate I watched early last week seemed like a draw. The panel was surprisingly not too one sided. The crowd did boo some responses and the panel didnt do much to curb it.

Obviously Brown needs to do very well in Hillsborough and Rockingham counties while keeping it as close as possible in Merrimack.

I still think Shaheen will win but it might not be called right away.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:27 pm to
next week is going to be a blood bath. should be interesting to watch how it shakes out.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:33 pm to
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What is your opinion of Shaheen's performance vs Brown?


Watching the entire debate, as a Brown supporter, I felt he came out just a little better. Typical of debates, one could pull out sound bites from both candidates that made one look good and other not so good. They are both experienced debaters and neither makes many mistakes.

Of the 19 polls released in the past 6 weeks, Brown had led or been tied only in polls conducted by New England College. He has trailed in all of the others.

There will be a big Get Out the Vote rally featuring Hillary Clinton and the four incumbent Dem women. That will be in Nashua Sunday morning. It will likely be overshadowed by the Patriots-Broncos game that afternoon 58 miles to the South. NH women love politics, but they love the Patriots even more. Can't go anywhere around here without seeing a female wearing Patriots gear from September to January.

Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:37 pm to
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New Hampshire is a funny state.


We prefer "unique".
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123954 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:53 pm to
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Watching the entire debate, as a Brown supporter, I felt he came out just a little better. Typical of debates, one could pull out sound bites from both candidates that made one look good and other not so good. They are both experienced debaters and neither makes many mistakes.

Of the 19 polls released in the past 6 weeks, Brown had led or been tied only in polls conducted by New England College. He has trailed in all of the others.
Sounds like the state will be well represented. NH puts out some really good politicians.
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
7193 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:57 pm to
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There will be a big Get Out the Vote rally featuring Hillary Clinton and the four incumbent Dem women. That will be in Nashua Sunday morning


Yeah bad scheduling there.

Alot of people outside of New England dont realize Brown is probably as conservative as that region will elect. Anymore to the right and he is down double digits.

I have a feeling alot of those women at that rally arent going to be hardcore football fans but on the other hand some of those women walking around in Brady jerseys might vote for Brown because they deem him "attractive"

Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 6:35 pm to
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of people outside of New England dont realize Brown is probably as conservative as that region will elect. Anymore to the right and he is down double digits.


This is very true of course. Scott Brown could not win in a red state. But in a perennially-purple state like NH, he can. Not saying he will, but he can. Kelly Ayotte would not win a solidly red state either, but at a time when 4 of the top 5 NH political positions are held by Dems, . Sen. Ayotte has the best net favorable ratings right now of any national or state politician. She could not be the Republican nominee in a red state, just as Ted Cruz could not be the Republican nominee in a blue or purple state. Nevertheless, Ayotte and Cruz, though both seen by the other's supporters as disconnected, have very similar voting records. (They even sit next to each other in the Senate chamber.) Their Republican votes in the Senate both count equally as one vote in opposition to Obama programs.

A "conservative" in a blue or purple state does not have the same meaning as a "conservative" in a red state.

Ayotte and Brown are not what most red state Republicans find to be to their liking, but the only option is another liberal Democrat taking that seat and voting against Senate Republicans on almost every vote of substance (omitting the "junk" legislation like naming post offices and other public buildings after local figures).

One more thing about Ayotte (and I openly admit to being prejudiced because I have known her personally for a number of years), her name will come up frequently for the VP slot in 2016 no matter who the Republican nominee is. Her speaking voice in private is very normal, but for some reason, which even she cannot get a handle on, her public speaking voice has a "quiver" to it that is difficult to listen to, and in a national election that will "irk" some people. In Senate hearings, she has a strong and clear voice and is a strong and aggressive inquisitor. She's tough and she doesn't back down. But then she appears on a Sunday talk show, and that voice quiver makes it sound likes she's scared to death of the camera. If she can conquer that distracting quiver, she will be a force in the GOP for years to come

By the way, NH women are a tough breed overall. They like the Patriots because they like football and the team, not because they think Tom Brady is good-looking. They prefer a bearded mountain-man look to the Brady "boyish" Hollywood look. Their Patriots jerseys have Gronk's 87 and Wilfork's 75 on them. They're tough broads and proud of it.

Note": watching the Kuster- Garcia debate right now, and Garcia's youth and inexperience is showing. I despise Kuster, but she's going to be declared the winner of this one. Both are wearing blue jackets but it's easy to tell them apart - Beauty and the Beast Part Deux. (I've seen them both in person close-up so as mean as that last comment sounds, I stand by it.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 6:40 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 6:43 pm to
Scott Brown is just about the only republican that I really want to see win in this election based on his merits alone. He's a good candidate and will be an excellent senator.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 6:56 pm to
Whoa. Late in this Kuster-Garcia debate, the TV station had asked the viewers to text the subject they most wanted to hear the candidates address, and of all possible issues, a full 50% of the viewers wanted them to talk about gun control and the second amendment. Even though NH is a Northeast state, it's a very pro-gun rights state, and young Ms. Garcia jumped all over that one because Kuster is a strong gun control advocate. A gift from heaven for Garcia and in the minutes following that question, the young lady has taken the initiative and taking the fight to Kuster. Kuster will still "win" the debate in the newspapers, but not nearly as decidedly as it looked earlier. Five more minutes to go and the moderator asked them which Halloween candy they identified with (yes, for real, it was meant to lighten the mood). Kuster said Snickers and Garcia came back with Kit-Kat.

Somehow, both answers seemed very fitting.
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
7193 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 7:05 pm to
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Whoa. Late in this Kuster-Garcia debate


Whats the latest poll in this race? I either havent seen one or dont remember.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Whats the latest poll in this race? I either havent seen one or dont remember.



In what was once expected to be a close race, Kuster has pulled out to a very comfortable lead, mainly due to the youthful Garcia's inability to focus her campaign and Kuster's success in labeling Garcia a Tea Party candidiate (the "Tea Party" is not very popular in NH at all). Kuster is not really well-liked overall and was thought to be very vulnerable back in the spring and summer, so it's more of a Garcia failure than a Kuster triumph. Hopefully, Guinta can beat Shea-Porter and get one of the two House seats back in the Republican column.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64389 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 7:33 pm to
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We prefer "unique"


Would imagine uniquely beautiful this time of year. On my bucket list NH VT and NE crabs, lobster and CC/LC
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
7193 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 7:35 pm to
I'd like to check NH out during 2016 primary season.
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