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Mark Tremonti - "U.S. Rock Scene is Faceless"

Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:11 pm
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:11 pm
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Europe's what, I think, really has kept rock alive. If it wasn't for Europe, we'd probably be retired."


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"Europe's a really strong rock market. In the States, I think, the big rock stars turned into pop stars, and the rap stars…"


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"Rock's such a faceless scene right now. Everybody knows what Lil Wayne looks like and what Jay-Z and Pink and all the pop stars look like"
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:43 pm to
I could care less what a rock star looks like,,,,,Euro or merican. Who is Mark Tremonti?
Posted by Spaulding Smails
Milano’s Bar
Member since Jun 2012
18805 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:43 pm to
Where in the frick were you in the nu metal thread?
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 10/25/14 at 12:02 am to




Staind, limp bizkit, korn and system of a down laugh at your dumbass
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 12:03 am to
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Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18618 posts
Posted on 10/25/14 at 12:29 am to
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Staind, limp bizkit, korn and system of a down


Bands that were popular 15 years ago.... Cool.
Posted by Spaulding Smails
Milano’s Bar
Member since Jun 2012
18805 posts
Posted on 10/25/14 at 12:40 am to
Yeah, like that dickheaded guitarist for Creed is living a better life than Fred Durst right now..kneeg row please
This post was edited on 10/25/14 at 12:41 am
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 10/25/14 at 1:13 am to
You onviousky havent heard stainds new album
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18618 posts
Posted on 10/25/14 at 1:28 am to
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You onviousky havent heard stainds new album


I don't plan to. Staind played Rock on the Row here several months back and there was so much socializing by the crowd during their acoustic portion, it was deafening.....
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73144 posts
Posted on 10/25/14 at 8:47 am to
modern rock either went total pop or it got heavier

there are tons of really heavy bands that are very successful, they just don't get played on terrestrial radio

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67096 posts
Posted on 10/25/14 at 9:40 am to
He's not wrong. The closest things to a "face of rock" in the U.S. are probably Dave Grohl or Eddie Vetter.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78648 posts
Posted on 10/25/14 at 9:59 am to
If you want to see Mark Tremonti play in Europe, you do it in a 20,000 seat arena. In America he plays The Hard Rock. Europe has saved metal. Just like they embraced Hendrix first, the Euros know what they are seeing, whereas Americans have no idea. Americans are all about style and trend sadly. Cultural robots. Rock and roll is alive and kicking in Europe. It's being preserved.

Tremonti is completely right.There is no rock and roll BOMBAST left in America. Only Pomp and popular culture bottom-feeders. Rock and roll has basically been driven underground in America. The worst part about it is that kids (under 18) aren't able to see the Mark Tremonti's of the world, so they never really have a chance to become fans or go to authentic, loud , messy rock shows. Everything is so saccharine sweet and poppy.

Pimp Jr (13) went to see Alter Bridge this year and loves Kennedy/Tremonti. The first thing he told me this morning was "Good morning Dad, Jack Bruce died" which gives me some hope for the future (sadly not Jack Bruce's future). But it's pretty sad that he's wearing out Traffic albums and Cream albums because he can't find anything substantive being released today.

Loud, live bands like Monster Truck and Alter Bridge and Rival Sons would have been the most famous bands in America pre-1990. Now they are largely unknown. It's one of the reasons I don't crack on the jam band fanboys-because at least they are preserving the listening experience and the venues. But the vast majority of it is cynical corporate schlock.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:11 am to
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Jack Bruce died


Fortunately this has been confirmed as a hoax

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Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:16 am to
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There is no rock and roll BOMBAST left in America
bom·bast
'bämbast
noun
1) high-sounding language with little meaning, used to impress people 2) speech or writing that is meant to sound important or impressive but is not sincere or meaningful
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There is no rock and roll BOMBAST left in America
Good
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78648 posts
Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:32 am to
Well shite. Bombast was a poor word choice. Alert the media-I have apparently misused a word. Because those bands I listed are the opposite of bombast. I was thinking stacks of Marshall amps and musical prowess, not choreographed stage productions with hair and explosions. These bands are all about grit and authenticity and kicking your arse for two hours.

I stand corrected.

The vast majority of the great bands of yesteryear would be playing 2000 seat venues in today's environment.
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:35 am to
There still is great rock being made in America if you're willing to look left of center.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
78648 posts
Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:42 am to
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There still is great rock being made in America if you're willing to look left of center.


Absolutely. I think that's the point. You have to be an audiophile and you have to really pursue it. You have to travel to faraway venues. But the bands themselves are largely UNSUPPORTED in the US. All these great bands are comparatively starving. Until they go to Europe. Then they can sell out massive shows in Scandinavia, Eastern Europe etc. That's where the rock and roll vitality is. It used to be here.

Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:46 am to
Who are these great bands?

Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141986 posts
Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:47 am to
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Bombast was a poor word choice. Alert the media-I have apparently misused a word. Because those bands I listed are the opposite of bombast.
Actually the heavy metal bands that people in this thread are confusing with rock & roll are the perfect definition of bombast.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 10/25/14 at 10:53 am to
Gary Clark jr will change this
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