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re: An Apology to the Board
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:28 pm to Burt Reynolds
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:28 pm to Burt Reynolds
Would is a key word.
Whats indegenous american mean?
quote:
75% indegenous american people
Whats indegenous american mean?
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:30 pm to goatmilker
Indigenous peoples. Sorry on phone.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:34 pm to Burt Reynolds
What were the indigenous doing before the white man came? Do you think they were nice, tolerant, and peaceful toward one another?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:34 pm to Ace Midnight
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Ace Midnight
Excellent summation counsel.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:35 pm to goatmilker
Christians have done a lot of terrible things, but the theme that keeps re-emerging is "civilizing" people. They want to conquer your land, teach you about Jesus and how to read and write so you can be awesome like them. That's basically how the Pope justified it for thousands of years.
Now in a modern sense, that's certainly condescending, oppressive, ethnocentric, racist, imperialist, whatever. All true. But the point is Christianity has never really lent itself to wholesale slaughter (very few exceptions) It doesn't make sense in Christianity.
However, if you are an atheist liberal member of the Intelligentsia, and you know what's best for society, then it's a lot easier to just kill them all and be done with it. Social engineering from atheist social Darwinists is the danger we face. That is what gets EVERYONE killed. And we see it time and time again.
But by all means, let's denigrate white American Christians for being human like everyone else on the globe throughout history, and also building the greatest civilizations. And then, deciding to be better THAN EVERYONE ELSE ON THE GLOBE and stop the madness and invite those oppressed people to live freely in their great civilizations. What a bunch of fricking assholes.
Now in a modern sense, that's certainly condescending, oppressive, ethnocentric, racist, imperialist, whatever. All true. But the point is Christianity has never really lent itself to wholesale slaughter (very few exceptions) It doesn't make sense in Christianity.
However, if you are an atheist liberal member of the Intelligentsia, and you know what's best for society, then it's a lot easier to just kill them all and be done with it. Social engineering from atheist social Darwinists is the danger we face. That is what gets EVERYONE killed. And we see it time and time again.
But by all means, let's denigrate white American Christians for being human like everyone else on the globe throughout history, and also building the greatest civilizations. And then, deciding to be better THAN EVERYONE ELSE ON THE GLOBE and stop the madness and invite those oppressed people to live freely in their great civilizations. What a bunch of fricking assholes.
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:39 pm to genro
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Christians have done a lot of terrible things, but the theme that keeps re-emerging is "civilizing" people. They want to conquer your land, teach you about Jesus and how to read and write so you can be awesome like them. That's basically how the Pope justified it for thousands of years.
Now in a modern sense, that's certainly condescending, oppressive, ethnocentric, racist, imperialist, whatever. All true. But the point is Christianity has never really lent itself to wholesale slaughter (very few exceptions) It doesn't make sense in Christianity.
And you just took the counter-crazy position from Burt. That's an absurd view of history.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:41 pm to cwill
You can bring up Cromwell and Columbus if you like. I contend they are exceptions.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:41 pm to Burt Reynolds
quote:Odd confabulation indeed. Sort of a conveniently reconstructed mix of Pizarro and Jackson.
Still didnt kill half as many people as the christian colonization of the americas. In fact, nothing has.
Odder still that the relation intimates a definitively Christian founding of the country.
Certainly an accidental side track in Burt Reynolds' case.
Funny nonetheless.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:47 pm to genro
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What were the indigenous doing before the white man came? Do you think they were nice, tolerant, and peaceful toward one another?
Indigenous people killing indigenous people is natural, normal and an expression of the culture. But when white folk doin the killing. Then it's racist.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:48 pm to genro
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Posted by genro What were the indigenous doing before the white man came? Do you think they were nice, tolerant, and peaceful toward one another?
How is that relevant to their imminent death and enslavement?
My point was that Christians have killed alot of people colonizing not only the Americas but also Asia and Africa (as volstakestheshaft pointed out). I just think its kindof pathetic how many of the sec bred posters on this board vehemently defend christianity and judaism while attacking islam at the aame time. Its just convenient because its analagous with this boards sheltered southern mindset. You know me, just playing devils advocate
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:49 pm to NC_Tigah
Charles Mann's 1491 is a excellent book.
Highly recommended. Have a good weekend all.
Highly recommended. Have a good weekend all.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:49 pm to genro
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You can bring up Cromwell and Columbus if you like. I contend they are exceptions.
And the Crusades.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:49 pm to Burt Reynolds
The defense of modern Christianity versus modern Islam in re: mass killings is they're not doing it right Fricking now. That probably escapes you.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:50 pm to KCT
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i could tell by the diversity of posters who were criticizing me that maybe it's time for some honest reflection about some things.
Wait a minute. I've been telling you these things since forever, but now since some melanin-deprived posters hopped on the bandwagon, now you realize its time for some honest reflection?
You can't even apologize right.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:50 pm to Burt Reynolds
quote:The Bible doesn't call for holy war and world domination. Their modern theology most certainly doesn't.
defend christianity and judaism while attacking islam at the aame time. Its just convenient because its analagous with this boards sheltered southern mindset. You know me, just playing devils advocate
That's the difference.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:51 pm to onmymedicalgrind
To be fair, I wouldn't take you seriously either.
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:51 pm to NC_Tigah
He is referring to the Americas....the Spaniards and Portugese did have a strong Catholic bent to their conquest.
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:52 pm to the808bass
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Indigenous people killing indigenous people is natural, normal and an expression of the culture. But when white folk doin the killing. Then it's racist.
+1
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:52 pm to genro
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and we see it time and time again
Do we see it time and time agian outside of the 20th century communist dictators?
Funny how the only argument that this board really has against atheists is the commie dictators. Thats poli boards go to strawman.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:52 pm to cwill
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And the Crusades.
Not defending the Crusades, but you do understand what happened during the 400 years preceeding them, right?
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