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Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:45 pm to lsu2006
He was paid $100,000 less than Trent Johnson. Ridiculous.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:45 pm to lsu2006
Ok, so the mistake paying Trent Johnson too much should bite us here too??? Hell at least Trent had a tournament appearance.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:47 pm to TJG210
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Ok, so the mistake paying Trent Johnson too much should bite us here too??? Hell at least Trent had a tournament appearance.
No, but I'm just saying he was underpaid before.
If you expected LSU to keep Jones as the 12th best paid coach out of 14 in the SEC with the team he has put together than you are just taking advantage of the fact that Jones would do anything for the LSU program. He will never leave on his own accord unless he thinks it is better for LSU. He is an honorable man who loves LSU.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:49 pm to SouthOfSouth
I love LSU too, but win some meaningful games and at least make an appearance in the tournament before getting a raise.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:52 pm to TJG210
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I love LSU too, but win some meaningful games and at least make an appearance in the tournament before getting a raise.
He has more wins in his first 2 years than any other coach in LSU history.
He is building a program. Sometimes you have to look past just the W's and L's and look at the way things are being handled.
It's blatantly obvious that the basketball program is in a much better place than it was just a few years ago.
He made a trip to the NIT last season and is projected to finish 3rd or 4th in SEC this year which would likely get us a tournament birth. LSU likely using buy low technique here paying him before he deserves more.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:54 pm to SouthOfSouth
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Ok, so the mistake paying Trent Johnson too much should bite us here too??? Hell at least Trent had a tournament appearance. No, but I'm just saying he was underpaid before. If you expected LSU to keep Jones as the 12th best paid coach out of 14 in the SEC with the team he has put together than you are just taking advantage of the fact that Jones would do anything for the LSU program. He will never leave on his own accord unless he thinks it is better for LSU. He is an honorable man who loves LSU.
So what? Win something. One NIT appearance and two .500 SEC records are not worthy of an extension and a raise. Congrats that he's moved us to mediocrity, but I don't think mediocrity should be rewarded.
And he should be paid less than Trent Johnson. Trent went to the Sweet 16 at Nevada and Stanford and won an SEC title here.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:55 pm to SouthOfSouth
quote:On court results havent. But I do think we are soon to be there
We were paying Trent 1.2mm and Jones has been MUCH better than TJ.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:01 pm to lsupride87
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On court results havent.
They actually have...
Trent Johnson went 67-64 in 4 years, good for a .511 win percentage
Johnny Jones has gone 39-26 in 2 years, good for a .600 win percentage.
TJ inherited an awesome roster and went 27-8 in his first year. After that he went 11-20, 11-21, and 18-15.... Just Horrible.
In Trent Johnson's last 3 years, he won 12 total SEC games.
Jones has won 9 in each of his two seasons.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:03 pm to SouthOfSouth
quote:That is MUCH better? And are we going to ignore one has an SEC title and a NCAA 2nd round birth? I like jones but I think to say he has been better, even more so MUCH better, isnt exactly correct
Trent Johnson went 67-64 in 4 years, good for a .511 win percentage
Johnny Jones has gone 39-26 in 2 years, good for a .600 win percentage.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:03 pm to SouthOfSouth
What are the respective sec records for comparisons sake?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:04 pm to TJG210
TJ
13-3
2-14
3-13
7-9
Jones
9-9
9-9
13-3
2-14
3-13
7-9
Jones
9-9
9-9
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:06 pm to TJG210
Johnson in the SEC - 25–39 (.391), including 13-3 his first year.
Jones is 18-18 in the SEC in two years without the aide of inheriting a loaded roster his first year.
Jones is 18-18 in the SEC in two years without the aide of inheriting a loaded roster his first year.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:10 pm to lsu2006
Jones had plenty enough players to get in the tournament last year.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:22 pm to Hat Tricks
Not a fan of the timing at all, but I understand he's a lot better than 12th in the SEC.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:24 pm to TJG210
That's debatable, though I think the consensus was that we'd be a bubble-caliber team and with a few breaks could get in the tourney. That said, there were a few games I thought we had no business losing last year.
Either way, it's pretty near undeniable that we're headed in the right direction if you follow recruiting and you couple that with the hiring of Musselman as a bench coach. This roster is the first that really fits the mold personnel-wise of what Jones wants/likes. I probably would have waited until after this year to address extending his contract, but I think the raise was warranted. On the flip side, I think having him locked in through 2019 should even further stabilize recruiting, so overall I'm not 100% decided on how I feel about the extension.
Either way, it's pretty near undeniable that we're headed in the right direction if you follow recruiting and you couple that with the hiring of Musselman as a bench coach. This roster is the first that really fits the mold personnel-wise of what Jones wants/likes. I probably would have waited until after this year to address extending his contract, but I think the raise was warranted. On the flip side, I think having him locked in through 2019 should even further stabilize recruiting, so overall I'm not 100% decided on how I feel about the extension.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:26 pm to lsu2006
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I probably would have waited until after this year to address extending his contract, but I think the raise was warranted. On the flip side, I think having him locked in through 2019 should even further stabilize recruiting, so overall I'm not 100% decided on how I feel about the extension.
I am 100% behind this. Exactly how I feel on it.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:33 pm to Hat Tricks
I've been a season ticket holder since Trent's second year and I upgraded my seats this year. I think we make the tourney this year, and make a serious run next year. I have a lot more faith in Johnny Jones than most fans though.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:34 pm to SouthOfSouth
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I probably would have waited until after this year to address extending his contract, but I think the raise was warranted. On the flip side, I think having him locked in through 2019 should even further stabilize recruiting, so overall I'm not 100% decided on how I feel about the extension.
I think the Musselman hiring was great, but giving Jones a raise and extension prior to the season is puzzling. If he produces on the court, then by all means, but I'm sorry he needs to produce results.
Like I said regardless of what he does this year he is safe, but what is the expectation after that? With Simmons he at least has to compete for an SEC Championship, no? If he doesn't is he canned, on the hot seat? We pretty much already know without some kind of crazy scenario that Simmons will be a one and done.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:37 pm to TJG210
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Jones had plenty enough players to get in the tournament last year.
Except, you know, SEC caliber guards.
Don't get me wrong, I love Hickey and Stringer, but they were a serious liability defensively.
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