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Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:45 am to RLDSC FAN
I get people love them, but only because they geek out for comic book characters and super heroes
I just think it's funny these movies haven't been released and everyone is saying they'll suck...
the marvel movies are mostly garbage and they're B, C, and D team characters.
superman and batman will have the same fanfare and likely the same commercial success. It helps that batman and superman are perhaps the 2 biggest comic franchises in existence...and if people like aliens and dimensions and portals then they'll love the justice league (even though I don't)
I appreciate superman, but batman is the only thing I really love in the DC universe
I just think it's funny these movies haven't been released and everyone is saying they'll suck...
the marvel movies are mostly garbage and they're B, C, and D team characters. superman and batman will have the same fanfare and likely the same commercial success. It helps that batman and superman are perhaps the 2 biggest comic franchises in existence...and if people like aliens and dimensions and portals then they'll love the justice league (even though I don't)
I appreciate superman, but batman is the only thing I really love in the DC universe
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:45 am to OMLandshark
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I know I'm beating a dead horse, but it makes no sense to start off Batman in The Dark Knight Returns version of the character. Can anyone else not see this?
I'm afraid I cannot see it. Everyone already knows Batman's origin and has seen a good bit of his rouges gallery. Why beat a dead horse by doing ANOTHER origin movie when you can fast forward into the character's history to a time where he's a seasoned crime fighting veteran?
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:48 am to RollTide1987
as these movies get more comic like, I start to wonder when it's just more fun to watch the animated series, animated movies, or play the video games
for example, the arkham universe is my favorite adaptation/interpretation of batman ever
for example, the arkham universe is my favorite adaptation/interpretation of batman ever
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:51 am to RollTide1987
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I'm afraid I cannot see it. Everyone already knows Batman's origin and has seen a good bit of his rouges gallery. Why beat a dead horse by doing ANOTHER origin movie when you can fast forward into the character's history to a time where he's a seasoned crime fighting veteran?
Who said do another origin movie? Why not have Batman at it for 5 years already instead of making him old?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:55 am to OMLandshark
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Why not have Batman at it for 5 years already instead of making him old?
Because we've seen that before? An older, more experienced Batman is something that hasn't been seen in a live action movie.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:55 am to OMLandshark
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Who said do another origin movie? Why not have Batman at it for 5 years already instead of making him old?
By having Batman meet and join members of the Justice League near the end of his career allows the writer to not invalidate his mission and importance during the early and mid-stages of his career.
It's been very strongly rumored that WB will be making Batman movie "flashbacks" to Batman in the middle of his career.
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:56 am to RollTide1987
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Why beat a dead horse by doing ANOTHER origin movie when you can fast forward into the character's history to a time where he's a seasoned crime fighting veteran?
No one said they need to do another origin story. You can start off with him being set up in Gotham doing his thing.
But...since they seem to be going out of their way to make this The Dark Knight Returns in every way possible, we're talking about a Batman that is not just seasoned, but older... In the comic, past his prime.
Why?
I'm all for not doing an origin story...we all know it. The only reason one would be needed would be if they were going to alter it slightly, sort of the way they did with MoS in that he's carrying the codex and stuff. But if it's basically the same story, no need.
But why start off with historically your biggest box office drawing character that much older? Unless they are trolling fans with this, it seems as though it would be painting them into a corner where Affleck's Bats can only be viable for so long in this BRAND NEW universe.
Meanwhile, Marvel keeps churning out movies and printing money...
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:10 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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But...since they seem to be going out of their way to make this The Dark Knight Returns in every way possible, we're talking about a Batman that is not just seasoned, but older... In the comic, past his prime.
I"m curious if some of you have already read the script? You seem to act as if you know everything about it. We've gotten little information and only seen a few pics here and there, how are you so sure it'll be exactly like DKR?
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But why start off with historically your biggest box office drawing character that much older? Unless they are trolling fans with this, it seems as though it would be painting them into a corner where Affleck's Bats can only be viable for so long in this BRAND NEW universe.
Ben Affleck is still a young enough looking dude that you can easily make 2 or 3 films with.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:15 pm to RLDSC FAN
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I"m curious if some of you have already read the script? You seem to act as if you know everything about it. We've gotten little information and only seen a few pics here and there, how are you so sure it'll be exactly like DKR?
Because every time someone involved in this movie on a script level has opened their trap, they mention that comic book. I don't see why I should think they aren't trying to emulate it in every way possible when they've point blank said it on several occasions.
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Ben Affleck is still a young enough looking dude that you can easily make 2 or 3 films with.
And that's also why it's bizarre to me. It's not as if Affleck couldn't be made to look like someone in his early 30s.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:25 pm to RollTide1987
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Why beat a dead horse by doing ANOTHER origin movie when you can fast forward into the character's history to a time where he's a seasoned crime fighting veteran?
That's understating Batman's age in TDKR by ALOT. That story is basically his swan song, his riding off into the sunset. STARTING the JL with Batman's final tale is risky.
(and I hate that story fwiw)
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:28 pm to theunknownknight
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That's understating Batman's age in TDKR by ALOT. That story is basically his swan song, his riding off into the sunset. STARTING the JL with Batman's final tale is risky.
However I highly doubt Bruce Wayne is going to be in his 70s in this movie. Looking at the leaked set photos, Bruce Wayne/Batman is going to be portrayed as a grizzled veteran who looks to be in the middle of his career as the Caped Crusader. I do not see any aging prosthetics in any of the on-set photos with Ben Affleck. His hair has been grayed slightly but, other than that, he doesn't appear to be old at all.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:39 pm to RLDSC FAN
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I"m curious if some of you have already read the script?
Are you?
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You seem to act as if you know everything about it. We've gotten little information and only seen a few pics here and there, how are you so sure it'll be exactly like DKR?
Are you suggesting they have not gone out of their way to suggest more than a passing connection between this film and TDKR? From the moment it was announced at Comicon, to the casting of Affleck, to the teaser scene shown this year at Comiccon, to now casting a chick as Robin and having her have red hair. Again, unless they are simply trolling fans with this stuff, it would be harder to point to things about this movie that we're aware of that DO NOT have clear links to TDKR than those that obviously do.
That's not me guessing...I pay little attention to this stuff...it's just being aware of what they themselves have pout out there. It's not my fault I can read/see and am familiar with what looks to be the heart of the source material.
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Ben Affleck is still a young enough looking dude that you can easily make 2 or 3 films with.
Which is my point. Is that what they are hoping to get out of their universe? The casted Batman for three films? RDJ was about the same age as Affleck is now when he took Iron Man. the difference obviously is that Bats, historically, has not been a guy wrapped up entirely in a suit which does his dirty work. It simply will be ridiculous to have a 48 year old Batman running around...even if Affleck does the necessary, um..."work" to stay in that kind of shape.
I have no issues at all with Affleck playing Bats...unless they specifically age him (like they did with Henry Cavill, btw.) Makes no sense whatsoever to limit the time frame of the universe unless they simply have no desire to have a long standing one like Marvel/Disney have crafted for themselves.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:45 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Correct me but didn't the league form really late into Batman's career?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:46 pm to OMLandshark
you know I thought it would be cool to do one last batman with burton/Keaton (totally ignoring the Schumacher films)...why not if you're so eager to get ANY batman movie out there.
Keaton is doing birdman
when I wanted him in another batman.
Plus as a 30 year old adult, batman was the first time I saw a movie in theaters...I would be so psyched for that
Keaton is doing birdman
when I wanted him in another batman. Plus as a 30 year old adult, batman was the first time I saw a movie in theaters...I would be so psyched for that
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:47 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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Correct me but didn't the league form really late into Batman's career?
That's correct for the majority of JL interpretations I've seen.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:47 pm to DelU249
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Keaton is doing birdman when I wanted him in another batman.
Batman Beyond. How great would that be?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:51 pm to Murray
you could do something akin to the dark knight returns (I don't give a shite if anyone thinks that's too much like "rises", burton's gotham is a totally different universe) you could do a batman beyond, or you could do something totally original
but I loved the art direction for the first two movies, particularly the second.
but I loved the art direction for the first two movies, particularly the second.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:13 pm to Murray
eta: to the hate about this being batmans "last story:" do you really think they are following the comic that closely? batman wont be on his death bed, hes not an old, decrepit old man. they are drawing inspiration from the story. i think some of you just need to pump the breaks a bit.
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:20 pm to BlacknGold
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eta: to the hate about this being batmans "last story:" do you really think they are following the comic that closely? batman wont be on his death bed, hes not an old, decrepit old man. they are drawing inspiration from the story. i think some of you just need to pump the breaks a bit.
my point exactly. just because they're drawing inspiration from the comic doesn't mean they're going to do the exact same thing. Plus I'm excited that Chris Terrio is in charge of the script
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