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Brees is simply continuing his road play from last year, except now at home too
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:11 pm
2013 Passer ratings by game locale:
Home - 126.3
Away - 84.8
2014 Passer ratings by game locale:
Home - 89.2
Away - 93.0
Simply put, Brees' road woes continue and seem to have now affected play at home (albeit only 2 games so far).
This is the scary thing. Brees is great, but he hasn't been playing up to par this season.
Home - 126.3
Away - 84.8
2014 Passer ratings by game locale:
Home - 89.2
Away - 93.0
Simply put, Brees' road woes continue and seem to have now affected play at home (albeit only 2 games so far).
This is the scary thing. Brees is great, but he hasn't been playing up to par this season.
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:26 pm to Geauxgurt
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Brees is great,
Wait, you just said he was mediocre. Which is it?
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2014 Passer ratings by game locale:
What a sample size.
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This is the scary thing
Its nothing since it is statistically irrelevant and skewed by 1 game at this point. You're trying to find a pattern in 2 games
He had a 120+ Passer Rating vs. the Vikings. So you're talking about 1 game
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:31 pm to TigerBait1127
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Wait, you just said he was mediocre. Which is it?
I said he's a great QB that is playing mediocre because of stupid mistakes
It is what we have so far. Only one game without an INT so far, all INTs but one at the end of regulation against Tampa has resulted in opponents scoring TDs.
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Its nothing since it is statistically irrelevant and skewed by 1 game at this point. You're trying to find a pattern in 2 games
Again, it's what we have so far. He has 2 games with a rating above 92 out of 6 and one is a blowout loss where he padded stats in the 4th quarter.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:33 pm to Geauxgurt
His offensive line is not protecting him the way they have his entire career in New Orleans.
That's it. End of story. It's really not more complicated than that.
That's it. End of story. It's really not more complicated than that.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:44 pm to Geauxgurt
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I said he's a great QB that is playing mediocre because of stupid mistakes
No, you said:
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He built up a lot of good will in 2009 and 2011, but honestly since then, he's been mediocre and pretty much just a stat padder for the most part the last 3 years.
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It is what we have so far.
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all INTs but one at the end of regulation against Tampa has resulted in opponents scoring TDs.
Pretty absurd to say the Atlanta one resulted in a TD when it was a touchback...
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Again, it's what we have so far. He has 2 games with a rating above 92 out of 6 and one is a blowout loss where he padded stats in the 4th quarter.
He has a 1 game with a rating above 120.
That one game is at home.
He's must be back baby, statistical relevance!!!!
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:02 pm to TigerBait1127
Drew is fine 90% of the time. The only problem is he derps the game away the other 10%.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:07 pm to Laaz2750
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His offensive line is not protecting him the way they have his entire career in New Orleans.
This is true to a degree, but it's not it like you claim. He's made some horrific mistakes.
Look I love Brees as the Saints QB, and wouldn't trade him for anyone, but the fact is that he's making critical mistakes that have cost his team games and put them in a 2-4 hole.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:14 pm to TigerBait1127
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No, you said:
And as far as results, he has been mediocre outside the super dome since 2011. The guy has averaged less than a 90 passer rating on the road the last nearly 2.5 years. That isn't elite like he was in 2009 or 2011.
That's mediocre. I think his stats have been great from as stat padding stand point, but he's been a one trick pony for two years. Again a 40+ ratings drop on the road from home is serious issues.
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Pretty absurd to say the Atlanta one resulted in a TD when it was a touchback.
Umm... It still was a turnover that resulted in points. Is it better that 5 of his 6 turnovers with any reasonable time on the clock resulted in easy touchdowns?
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He has a 1 game with a rating above 120.
That one game is at home.
He's must be back baby, statistical relevance!!!!
Yup and right now he has 1 great game and 1 horrible game at home. I don't get the sense that this team will dominate at home like they have in the past.
That said, I don't think Brees is "done" like some idiots are claiming, but he's definitely making bonehead mistakes that have cost his team.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:20 pm to Geauxgurt
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And as far as results, he has been mediocre outside the super dome since 2011.
That isn't what you said. You said he's been mediocre. I can quote it again.
Just say you were wrong
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That's mediocre
Is he mediocre?
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I think his stats have been great from as stat padding stand point,
What does that even mean?
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That said, I don't think Brees is "done" like some idiots are claiming,
Don't kid yourself, you are king of the idiots.
You don't think he's "done", you just think he's mediocre.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:24 pm to TigerBait1127
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n't think he's "done", you just think he's mediocre.
I think he's been mediocre, particularly on the road. There isn't anything wrong with that. He's consistently gotten delay of game penalties that aren't a part of his passer rating either so I don't see how the rating is pure gold.
Brees is a great QB and can put up stats. He's suffered from the loss of his OL coach and WR coaches over the last few years, and I don't think he's the same place he was at 3 years ago, but is still good.
His mistakes that have hurt this team are what make him mediocre over the last 3 years comparatively to his amazing performances from 2006-2011.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:30 pm to Geauxgurt
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His mistakes that have hurt this team are what make him mediocre over the last 3 years comparatively to his amazing performances from 2006-2011.
He had the lowest interception % since joing the Saints last year...
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:32 pm to TigerBait1127
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This is true to a degree, but it's not it like you claim. He's made some horrific mistakes.
Look I love Brees as the Saints QB, and wouldn't trade him for anyone, but the fact is that he's making critical mistakes that have cost his team games and put them in a 2-4 hole.
Yes but almost every single one has come under extreme duress. Now yes you could say he should be smart and take the sack or whatever, but the guy has a huge amount of pressure on him and nothing much is working so he's pressing and trying to make miracles happen. I get it.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:39 pm to Laaz2750
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Yes but almost every single one has come under extreme duress. Now yes you could say he should be smart and take the sack or whatever, but the guy has a huge amount of pressure on him and nothing much is working so he's pressing and trying to make miracles happen. I get it.
He's pressing when his team is winning? That is the stupidest excuse I've heard.
The Saints have led in the 4th quarter in 4 of their 6 games. The defense has screwed up, but it's not like this team was behind and scraping to get back into it when he made his INTs with no time left.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:03 pm to Geauxgurt
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He's pressing when his team is winning? That is the stupidest excuse I've heard.
Jesus
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The Saints have led in the 4th quarter in 4 of their 6 games.
Exactly, now try to put the two together.
And we've trailed in 5 of the 6 games in the 4th quarter.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:39 pm to Geauxgurt
so you're saying that as long as you're winning, you're never in a position where you absolutely HAVE to make a play on offense?
Or do I need to remind you that a single first down at the end of the game would have beaten the Patriots last season, and the Falcons and Browns this season (at least)... and in both cases, Drew was pretty goddamned aware of that fact.
Or do I need to remind you that a single first down at the end of the game would have beaten the Patriots last season, and the Falcons and Browns this season (at least)... and in both cases, Drew was pretty goddamned aware of that fact.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:56 pm to Geauxgurt
It's not Drew. It's inconsistent OL play.
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