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Cecil Shorts vs. Andre Holmes...Who would you prefer going forward?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:00 am
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:00 am
PPR format
Shorts is a nice option when he's actually healthy, especially with loads of garbage time on a bad team.
Holmes has posted 2 pretty damn good games, is he legit or just a matter of time until the Ds adjust to take him out of the game? I haven't seen the raiders play much so tough to comment there.
Shorts is a nice option when he's actually healthy, especially with loads of garbage time on a bad team.
Holmes has posted 2 pretty damn good games, is he legit or just a matter of time until the Ds adjust to take him out of the game? I haven't seen the raiders play much so tough to comment there.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:04 am to BilJ
I think Holmes is the better receiver. I mentioned him once or twice last year after seeing him play and making the most impressive catch of the year.
As far as fantasy plays, who knows? Bortles has a very high completion percentage so far, so that bodes well for Shorts. Plus, anyone who gets 16 targets is a sick PPR play. I think I would go Shorts.
As far as fantasy plays, who knows? Bortles has a very high completion percentage so far, so that bodes well for Shorts. Plus, anyone who gets 16 targets is a sick PPR play. I think I would go Shorts.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:09 am to BilJ
Personally, I think Shorts is the safer and maybe more consistent option. I see Holmes as a boom/bust guy week to week. Depends on what you are looking for. In one league I took Shorts when I had the choice between the two. I think Shorts is a solid double digit guy but low ceiling.
Saying a lot to say this:
For a consistent bye week replacement: Shorts
For a bench guy where you are just hoping for a blowup: Holmes
Saying a lot to say this:
For a consistent bye week replacement: Shorts
For a bench guy where you are just hoping for a blowup: Holmes
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:09 am to ehidal1
quote:
For a consistent bye week replacement: Shorts For a bench guy where you are just hoping for a blowup: Holmes
This
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:20 am to BilJ
Shorts although injury and getting phased out or shut down later in the year are things to consider down the road.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:21 am to BilJ
Shorts if you havent been paying attention
Holmes if you can see what's happening
Holmes if you can see what's happening
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:58 pm to BilJ
1. Shorts can't stay healthy
2. It's only a matter of time before Jacksonville starts seeing what they have in ARob and Lee
3. Holmes has little competition. Jones is a possession WR who is past his prime. Streator is hurt and Moore can't catch
2. It's only a matter of time before Jacksonville starts seeing what they have in ARob and Lee
3. Holmes has little competition. Jones is a possession WR who is past his prime. Streator is hurt and Moore can't catch
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:17 pm to BilJ
JS Big J
da frick is Cecil Shorts gonna do for me? Be a top 50 WR? Allen Robinson is seeing a ton of balls, Marqise Lee is getting healthy, Allen Hurns has been a deep threat, Clay Harbor is emerging.. they have a lot of mouths in JAC
It's Holmes and James Jones in OAK. Good thing is, Jones is still playing decent enough to take pressure off of Holmes. Holmes is a horse; big play type WR. He's at 18 ypc now and Carr has the arm to pepper him with targets downfield on the reg.
Look at the next two games- ARZ and CLE. ARZ is the worst at giving up points to fantasy WR and CLE is 19th. If it's me, I am adding Holmes NOW to see what he can do. These next two games may very well lay the foundation for the rest of his season; big time WR or two week wonder. I'd rather roll the dice on him then CS3
da frick is Cecil Shorts gonna do for me? Be a top 50 WR? Allen Robinson is seeing a ton of balls, Marqise Lee is getting healthy, Allen Hurns has been a deep threat, Clay Harbor is emerging.. they have a lot of mouths in JAC
It's Holmes and James Jones in OAK. Good thing is, Jones is still playing decent enough to take pressure off of Holmes. Holmes is a horse; big play type WR. He's at 18 ypc now and Carr has the arm to pepper him with targets downfield on the reg.
Look at the next two games- ARZ and CLE. ARZ is the worst at giving up points to fantasy WR and CLE is 19th. If it's me, I am adding Holmes NOW to see what he can do. These next two games may very well lay the foundation for the rest of his season; big time WR or two week wonder. I'd rather roll the dice on him then CS3
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:26 pm to GynoSandberg
Shorts got i think 16 targets last week and when he's healthy averages 9 or 10? With Bortles looking pretty good and J Ville throwing a lot Cecil. Especially in PPR.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:28 pm to AirborneJonnyA
Give me the lotto ticket in Holmes.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 3:21 pm to AirborneJonnyA
That sounds good in theory but Robinson has seen 10 targets in a game this year. So has Hurns. So has Lee. Harbor has seen 8 in a game. That's part of the problem i think, too many options. Robinson was looking like the guy for awhile there.
Shorts could emerge as the guy, but who knows
Shorts could emerge as the guy, but who knows
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:39 am to GynoSandberg
I think it boils down to who can throw a better deep ball. IMO, Carr does this better, therefore boosting Holmes' value. Bortles has had most of the season to build chemistry with Hurns and Robinson. I agree with the "to many mouths to feed." I am rolling holmes
Posted on 10/18/14 at 1:22 pm to GynoSandberg
Shorts is the guy in Jax when healthy. The problem is "when healthy"... If I knew both would play the rest of the season then i'd pick shorts in both formats. However, I would go with Holmes considering how risky Shorts health is.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 1:25 pm to Athletix
Yea but even when healthy he's a Flex play at best unless you're desperate
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