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Did the Patriots have an illegal formation on the blocked field goal last play?
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:53 pm
You can only have 6 players on one side of the snapper on a punt or field goal.
Eta:
Eta:
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 12:13 am
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:06 am to The Boat
Legal play.
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What the rule changes: "(a) When Team A presents a punt, field-goal attempt or a Try Kick formation, a Team B player, who is within 1 yard of the line of scrimmage, must have his entire body outside the snapper's shoulder pads at the snap. (b) When Team A presents a field-goal or Try Kick formation: (1) No more than six Team B players may be on the line of scrimmage on either side of the snapper at the snap; Penalty: For illegal formation by the defense, loss of 5 yards from the previous spot. (2) Team B players cannot push teammates on the line of scrimmage into the offensive formation. Penalty: For unnecessary roughness, loss of 15 yards from the previous spot."
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:54 pm to The Boat
Is it 6 players on the line? or 6 players total
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:55 pm to The Boat
didn't they shift just before the ball was snapped?
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:56 pm to LooseCannon22282
To shift right before the snap wouldn't someone be lined up above the snapper? Isn't that illegal?
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:57 pm to VermilionTiger
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Is it 6 players on the line? or 6 players total
I'm not sure, let's check the 5,329 chapters of the 327,418 page rulebook.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:57 pm to VermilionTiger
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Is it 6 players on the line? or 6 players total
Anywhere in the formation is how the rule sounds.
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didn't they shift just before the ball was snapped?
The ball was just snapped in that still shot.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:58 pm to VermilionTiger
i don't know. But I'm almost positive they did.
I didn't think anything about until now.
I didn't think anything about until now.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:00 am to LooseCannon22282
Nah.. They shifted some before the snap. The ball was just snapped in the spot I stopped the video there so that's their formation.
I haven't seen a single thing mentioned about this on TV or on twitter. Which makes me think.. is this still a rule? I'm pretty certain it is.
I haven't seen a single thing mentioned about this on TV or on twitter. Which makes me think.. is this still a rule? I'm pretty certain it is.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:03 am to The Boat
Yes, I think the patriots got flagged for it earlier in the year actually.
I've seen it called before too..maybe in the last 3 weeks
I've seen it called before too..maybe in the last 3 weeks
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:05 am to The Boat
You are correct and you should email a few major websites tomorrow. This game may go under protest.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:06 am to The Boat
Legal play.
LINK
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What the rule changes: "(a) When Team A presents a punt, field-goal attempt or a Try Kick formation, a Team B player, who is within 1 yard of the line of scrimmage, must have his entire body outside the snapper's shoulder pads at the snap. (b) When Team A presents a field-goal or Try Kick formation: (1) No more than six Team B players may be on the line of scrimmage on either side of the snapper at the snap; Penalty: For illegal formation by the defense, loss of 5 yards from the previous spot. (2) Team B players cannot push teammates on the line of scrimmage into the offensive formation. Penalty: For unnecessary roughness, loss of 15 yards from the previous spot."
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:09 am to The Boat
I found this article from 2013 about rule changes:
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On field goal or extra point plays, the defense cannot have more than 6 players on the line of scrimmage on either side of the snapper. If they do, it will result in a 5 yard Illegal formation penalty.
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:09 am to Tiger Ryno
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You are correct and you should email a few major websites tomorrow. This game may go under protest.
I've already written the letters and stapled the Polaroids to them. I just need to buy some stamps.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:12 am to ZZTIGERS
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On field goal or extra point plays, the defense cannot have more than 6 players on the line of scrimmage on either side of the snapper.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:16 am to The Boat
Am I mad that someone posted the same thing I did after me and got credit? YES!
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:45 am to The Boat
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You can only have 6 players on one side of the snapper on a punt or field goal.
That wouldn't make sense anyway. You're not allowed to line up directly in front of the line snapper, so you can't have 11 men on the field without 6+ players on one side of him.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:53 am to THRILLHO
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That wouldn't make sense anyway. You're not allowed to line up directly in front of the line snapper, so you can't have 11 men on the field without 6+ players on one side of him.
Wut. 6 on one side and 5 on the other is how you have to line up in the NFL. If they're on the line of scrimmage.
6|5. That's 11.
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 1:58 am
Posted on 10/17/14 at 5:00 am to The Boat
Pretty sure that is what he is saying
As in that was a dumb rule that needed to be clarified to on the line of scrimmage because if not, then any formation was at risk of being penalized if someone moved
As in that was a dumb rule that needed to be clarified to on the line of scrimmage because if not, then any formation was at risk of being penalized if someone moved
Posted on 10/17/14 at 7:09 am to KBeezy
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Pretty sure that is what he is saying
As in that was a dumb rule that needed to be clarified to on the line of scrimmage because if not, then any formation was at risk of being penalized if someone moved
Hes talking about having MORE than 6 on one side, obviously you will have atleast 6 on one side and 5 on the other. They have 7 on one side in this pic but 1 is off the line of scrimmage
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:34 am to The Boat
Meh, the refs were awful all night.
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