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Nate Silver gives GOP 60% chance t take Senate

Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:13 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:13 am
I know he is a Dem shill. . .but Dude nailed the last 2 cycles.

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Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:16 am to
It wasn't until after 2012 that Nate Silver proved me wrong and earned my respect. I put a lot of weight into his opinion and analysis now.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:17 am to
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I know he is a Dem shill.

Because he said Obama would take all the swing states and this board disagreed?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:19 am to
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Because he said Obama would take all the swing states and this board disagreed?
No. Because he is a dem shill.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:27 am to
This is good news, but I am extremely concerned that minorities and young people who are hard to poll will show up to vote.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:37 am to
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This is good news, but I am extremely concerned that minorities and young people who are hard to poll will show up to vote.

These are the midterm elections. Old white people vote in these. There's no Obama to draw out minorities and most young people don't know there's an election in a few weeks.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:38 am to
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but I am extremely concerned that minorities and young people who are hard to poll will show up to vote.



Unlike almost every other mid-term election? What is causing your concern?
Posted by NHTIGER
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:57 am to
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but Dude nailed the last 2 cycles.


In 2010 he nailed the Senate races, but finished in the middle of the pack on the big House wave side of things, beaten out by a dozen or so others.. In fact, he even hedged his bets the night before the 2010 elections by posting that there was a chance the Dems could surprise everyone and keep their majority against all odds. You don't hear much about that one. Only the Senate side of 2010.

For the non-believers:


The GOP picked up 63 House seats in 2010, and at 9:35 PM Election Eve , Nate Silver's model predicted a GOP pickup of just 54, missing by 9 seats.

"House Forecast: G.O.P. Plus 54-55 Seats; Significantly Larger or Smaller Gains Possible
By Nate Silver
November 1, 2010 9:35 pm"


"Our forecasting model, which is based on a consensus of indicators including generic ballot polling, polling of local districts, expert forecasts, and fund-raising data, now predicts an average Republican gain of 54 seats (up one from 53 seats in last night’s forecast), and a median Republican gain of 55 seats."

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Numerous prognosticators came closer than that.

In fact, at 8:20 PM on Election Eve (this is where he completely hedged his bets , knowing that if the unexpected happened, he would be hailed a genius!):



"5 Reasons Democrats Could Beat the Polls and Hold the House"
By Nate Silver
November 1, 2010 8:20 pm

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Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 1:14 am to
Because he knows the dems cheat, and mass cheating wins close states.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 2:29 am to
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These are the midterm elections. Old white people vote in these. There's no Obama to draw out minorities and most young people don't know there's an election in a few weeks.

Lets hope to God this holds true and they stay their arse home. They've done enough damage.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:11 am to
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These are the midterm elections. Old white people vote in these. There's no Obama to draw out minorities and most young people don't know there's an election in a few weeks.


Bingo. Thankfully the American Idol voter mentality has no idea of the importance of these midterms
Posted by FAF
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:24 am to
quote:

This is good news, but I am extremely concerned that minorities and young people who are hard to poll will show up to vote.


..which is why he has it at 60%.

Based on current polls, it's about 80%.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:37 am to
quote:

In 2010 he nailed the Senate races, but finished in the middle of the pack on the big House wave side of things, beaten out by a dozen or so others.. In fact, he even hedged his bets the night before the 2010 elections by posting that there was a chance the Dems could surprise everyone and keep their majority against all odds. You don't hear much about that one. Only the Senate side of 2010.



looking at how he models, i would expect him to be more accurate in larger, natioanl or dstate wide elections that garner better polling information.

to model the house races, you get less frequesnt, less sampling, and less well known polling companies, so the data is weaker to analyze

Silver does not deal in absolutes, but rather odds, compounded on each race, to give the overall probability model. and he gives weights to polls who are historically closer to election cycles, and he weights to outcome on historic voting trends

Not the biggest fan of him or hs work, but if he keeps getting things right, he gets more credibility....
Posted by a want
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:43 am to
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I know he is a Dem shill.

Pat Buchanan is a Dem shill to you

WAPO has it around 90%. Princeton Election Consortium/Sam Wang has it around 52%. It should go up since Lundergan-Grimes (KY) has thrown in the towel.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29049 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:44 am to
Funny how it boils down to this:


Republican hope: that extremely stupid, gullible, and/or uneducated people and/or people on the dole will not vote.


Democrat hope: that extremely stupid, gullible, and/or uneducated people and/or people on the dole will vote.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Because he said Obama would take all the swing states and this board disagreed?
No. Because he is a dem shill.

a shill would have the dems winning regardless.

he is just a democrat, who does really good analysis. He DGAF about what he wants, he just reads the data. Sorta like the opposite of karl rove.

we would be better off if more people were like this.

Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
79210 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:49 am to
Nate Silver;dr

I'm all in for Joshua Chamberlain

It does appear that those numbers are increasing for the GOP
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42639 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Funny how it boils down to this:


Republican hope: that extremely stupid, gullible, and/or uneducated people and/or people on the dole will not vote.


Democrat hope: that extremely stupid, gullible, and/or uneducated people and/or people on the dole will vote.

Absolutely correct.

Been that way for past 40 years.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 10:02 am to
Drank a beer with Joshua the other day.

Says, he is still waiting on the Ohio results before he concedes. Thinks Romney still has a chance.
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