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Which of the two is true?
Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:37 am
Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:37 am
Which of the two mutually exclusive statements is true?
1) Most Americans can't keep their pre-ObamaCare health care plans -
2) Most Americans are paying more for the exact same health care plans as they had pre-ObamaCare.
1) Most Americans can't keep their pre-ObamaCare health care plans -
2) Most Americans are paying more for the exact same health care plans as they had pre-ObamaCare.
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 6:38 am
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:44 am to SpidermanTUba
How much is Medicaid costing taxpayers for the people bringing their kids to the ER for the sniffles?
Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:52 am to SpidermanTUba
Obamacare hasn't even been fully implemented yet. Remember he keeps pushing back his mandates till after elections are over.
Also, voted down.
Also, voted down.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:52 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:
) Most Americans can't keep their pre-ObamaCare health care plans -
Certainly true for part time workers who were provided for by our largest retail store. It's a shame Obama doesn't care about the lower working class.
ETA: I gave you an upvote because I know it must be a heavy burden to try to support his initiatives despite common sense telling you otherwise.
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 6:54 am
Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:53 am to SpidermanTUba
Looks like a false choice setup to me but I'll play.
First, is Obamacare FULLY implemented now? (with all the exemptions and delays I'm not sure anymore)
If fully implemented then #1 is true because Obamacare forced/will force most plans to change. Therefore, there is/won't be a 'pre-Obamacare' plan available because they get regulated away.
First, is Obamacare FULLY implemented now? (with all the exemptions and delays I'm not sure anymore)
If fully implemented then #1 is true because Obamacare forced/will force most plans to change. Therefore, there is/won't be a 'pre-Obamacare' plan available because they get regulated away.
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 6:53 am
Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:55 am to SpidermanTUba
Neither are true. Yes they are paying more, but for way less care and choices.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:58 am to SpidermanTUba
You can try and put a $10 dollar shine on a $2 pair of shoes.....but in the end....
....you still have Obamacare.
Own it libs....it's yours.
....you still have Obamacare.
Own it libs....it's yours.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:59 am to SpidermanTUba
Obama straight up knowingly lied to the entire American people over and over. The man has no character.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:00 am to SpidermanTUba
You're altering statements. No one has said MOST Americans can't keep their pre-Obama healthcare. the facts are many. Many is not MOST.
Many have not been able to keep, and most are paying more the what they were able to keep. It's that easy.
My problem with you isn't that you spew liberal talking points. It's that you are so fricking smart, but still insist on distorting facts, altering quotes to your narrative, and telling outright lies to get your point across. I'll bet you could do some special things with your life if you weren't so disingenuous.
Many have not been able to keep, and most are paying more the what they were able to keep. It's that easy.
My problem with you isn't that you spew liberal talking points. It's that you are so fricking smart, but still insist on distorting facts, altering quotes to your narrative, and telling outright lies to get your point across. I'll bet you could do some special things with your life if you weren't so disingenuous.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:08 am to C
Down vote for you for assuming fat tuba has any common sense.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:11 am to ruzil
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Down vote for you for assuming fat tuba has any common sense.
Don't be so hard on him. He's only typical of his kind....."Liberals who live in Ivory Towers...who have no concept of what happens in the real world...and when their ideas totally fail....use the money of others to cover it up"....
So...please don't be so hard on the guy!!!
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:16 am to SpidermanTUba
C. Paying more for plans different from the ones they had before Obamacare.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:16 am to SpidermanTUba
Neither is true for me.
I'm paying more for a different/worst plan than I had before.
I'm paying more for a different/worst plan than I had before.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:17 am to SpidermanTUba
You omitted a third choice:
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quote:
1) Most Americans can't keep their pre-ObamaCare health care plans -
2) Most Americans are paying more for the exact same health care plans as they had pre-ObamaCare.
3) SpidermanTUba has the lowest IQ of any TigerDroppings poster.
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:18 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:
Which of the two mutually exclusive statements is true?
1) Most Americans can't keep their pre-ObamaCare health care plans -
Well my brother bought his insurance on the individual market before Obamacare and paid $105/month for plan that had a $1500 deductible. After the cheapest plan cost him $365/month for 2014 and is expected to go up in 2015, his deductible is now $5000. He didn't buy hid through the exchange but staight from BCBS, the cheapest on the exchange was $582/month with an $8000 deductible. However his old insurance didn't have birth control coverage for a single male (the horror) so it was junk even though it paid for more stuff than his new one.
quote:
2) Most Americans are paying more for the exact same health care plans as they had pre-ObamaCare.
False. Most Americans are paying more for less benefits.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:31 am to LSURussian
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SpidermanTUba has the lowest IQ of any TigerDroppings poster
I don't think tuba's IQ is the problem, I think your IQ or lack thereof is definitely a problem for you
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:32 am to bencoleman
You seem upset.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:33 am to SpidermanTUba
Actually, both.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:45 am to SpidermanTUba
Easy answer. Number 1. Most Americans can't keep their pre Obama-care health plans.
Number two is close to being true except it should say "most Americans pay more for a worse plan than their pre-obamacare plan".
You thought you had something here, didn't you?
dance, clown, dance
Number two is close to being true except it should say "most Americans pay more for a worse plan than their pre-obamacare plan".
You thought you had something here, didn't you?
dance, clown, dance
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:46 am to C
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ETA: I gave you an upvote because I know it must be a heavy burden to try to support his initiatives despite common sense telling you otherwise.
I give a downvote because he has no common sense.
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