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re: Arrow: Season 3 Thread
Posted on 12/13/14 at 6:47 pm to Tedock
Posted on 12/13/14 at 6:47 pm to Tedock
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(hell in the new52 they havnt even met each other).
But in the new 52 isn't that Black Canary Dinah Drake, not Dinah Laurel Lance (not that it negates your point or anything)?
I guess I'd be ok with him ending up with either one. But I'd love for them to redeem Laurel's character over the next season or two, then in the last season have Oliver and Laurel end up together (for the comic book nerd in me). But that would only work if they can redeem her character in the audience's eyes.
This post was edited on 12/13/14 at 6:48 pm
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Posted on 12/13/14 at 6:59 pm to Bamatab
It really is fascinating to see which way the show ultimately goes. In one corner you have the reigning champion Black Canary, in the other, the peoples champion Felicity Smoake. The only right way to settle it is some good ole fashion mud wrestlin'.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 7:01 pm to Bamatab
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I think Malcolm's overall plan is to eventually force Oliver to have to team up with him in order to take Ra's down. Like you, I don't think Malcolm ever thought that Oliver stood a chance against Ra's. I think he just wanted Oliver to realize he couldn't take on Ra's (and the League) by himself, so he sent Oliver to his "death" with the intention of bringing him back so that they could take Ra's on together. That's my current theory anyways.
I don't think so. I think he was fully aware Oliver was heading off to his death. And if by the slightest chance he survived, he used Oliver's family as leverage. Oliver can't look past that to form any type of partnership.
This post was edited on 12/13/14 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 12/14/14 at 4:49 pm to lsutigersFTW
I think Merlyn is the one who revives him though.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 5:15 pm to lsutigersFTW
Exactly. Malcolm Meryln proved himself the ultimate coward by using his daughter, whom he claimed he loved, as leverage on Oliver. However Ollie survives his seemingly mortal wound, I'm pretty sure he will never be able to look past Meryln threatening the life of his sister just so he could get off the hook with Ra's Al Ghul.
This post was edited on 12/14/14 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:55 am to RollTide1987
It's obvious Ollie is going to have to be revived in the Lazurus Pit. Was he ever involved with it in the comics?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:29 am to finchmeister08
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Was he ever involved with it in the comics?
I can't recall Oliver ever being revived in a Lazarus Pit, but Black Canary was after she tried to go a round with Ra's. Not only did it heal her injuries from the fight, but it also restored her canary cry and her ability to have kids which she had lost sometime back in the comics when she was held captive and tortured (Oliver actually killed the guy that did that).
And in regards to my guess that Malcolm's greater plan is to eventually team up with Oliver, I'm not saying that Oliver is going to be ok with that, or that he will even go along with it. I just think that is Malcolm's over all plan. I think that Malcolm views Oliver as the son that Tommy should've been. I also think that while Malcolm knew that Oliver didn't stand a chance against Ra's, I think he either has a plan on reviving Oliver, or figures that one of Nyssa, Maseo, or Ra's himself will revive him. Now again I don't think Oliver is going to be be ok with teaming up with Malcolm, but I think Malcolm has a bigger plan than just sending Oliver off to his death, especially since in the end that doesn't get Ra's and the League off of his back.
ETA: The one caveat for Oliver being willing to work with Malcolm is the effect of a Lazarus Pit (if that is what is used). If Malcolm does revive him using a pit, it could effect Oliver's mind enough that Malcolm could manipulate him (which could be part of his plan). But I really hope they don't go this route.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:11 pm to Bamatab
With all this Lazarus pit stuff and Malcolm, why didn't he use it on Tommy? 
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:16 pm to WPBTiger
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With all this Lazarus pit stuff and Malcolm, why didn't he use it on Tommy?
He did, but I have no proof.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:50 pm to WPBTiger
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With all this Lazarus pit stuff and Malcolm, why didn't he use it on Tommy?
Who's to say he didn't?
But if he didn't, then one reason probably might be because he was too worried about using it on himself seeing how Tommy wasn't the only one that went down that night.
But with that said, now that it sounds like the Lazarus Pits are now in play in this universe, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see Tommy at some point in the future.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:07 pm to Bamatab
Yeah wouldn't it be kinda dick if Malcolm saved Oliver's life and not his own sons haha
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:14 pm to wish i was tebow
Im just gonna leave this here
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:23 pm to Tedock
That is pretty badass.
Too bad it's just fan art. But CW needs to pay that fan so they can use it.
Too bad it's just fan art. But CW needs to pay that fan so they can use it.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:53 pm to Bamatab
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That is pretty badass.
Too bad it's just fan art. But CW needs to pay that fan so they can use it.
This is my response also... word for word
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:21 pm to Bamatab
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With all this Lazarus pit stuff and Malcolm, why didn't he use it on Tommy?
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Who's to say he didn't?
I guess this is a possibility. We may see Tommy at some point.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:06 pm to WPBTiger
I hope it doesn't become something that is used often. It seems like one of those types of plot devices that could be used that way.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:07 pm to UMRealist
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It seems like one of those types of plot devices that could be used that way.
agreed. theres a very high possibility that Ra's used the pits on Tommy instead of Merlyn being able to. This could be a twist against Merlyn.
Bama's theory about Merlyn and Oliver teaming up is pretty spot on. This has pretty much been set up already. The only real question is, will Slade also be part of the team? Will Oliver have to team up with his deadliest enemies to defeat the ultimate enemy? Seems like a classic comic set up to me.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:21 pm to BlacknGold
I'm thinking Nyssa finds out that Oliver didn't do it, and she winds up turning on Ras and going after Malcom.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 4:19 pm to Paco_taco
Got bored and went back and binge watched season 2 today.
Random question, whenever Oliver is in street clothes down in the ArrowCave and something happens and it becomes go-time, why does he always walk over and grab his bow first?
Idiot still has to dress out in the Arrow suit. I assume that gets significantly more difficult when trying to hold a bow while attempting to put your hands in the arm holes.
Seems like he should grab his bow last.
Random question, whenever Oliver is in street clothes down in the ArrowCave and something happens and it becomes go-time, why does he always walk over and grab his bow first?
Idiot still has to dress out in the Arrow suit. I assume that gets significantly more difficult when trying to hold a bow while attempting to put your hands in the arm holes.
Seems like he should grab his bow last.
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