How sold are we on Grimes and his zone blocking scheme?

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Dad goes on to say zone doesn't work because people hesitate, you step right or left and no one is there what do you do? He said you put a man on a man and hit the fricker in the mouth. Of course he also played for John Curtis and we all know JT loves to pound the rock, 3 1/2 yds a play.

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If your Dad is saying that zone blocking schemes can't be successful, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Having coached a little football at high school and junior levels, and being someone who watches a ton of it, he can't because he works he always like to defer to my thoughts. He's a great dad. Also it wasn't like I can't understand it but more like rhetorical what's happening.

A lot of butt hurt in this thread......... Zone blocking schemes have worked for many teams, it doesn't seem conducive for what we are trying to do.

Example Grimes scheme encourages double team down lineman and then breaking off to the next level. But what happens when the first lineman takes the guy down, like against Wisconsin then Pocic hesitates cause he suppose to chip the DT then advance but because he does this another LB runs by him and makes the tackle.

Well explain to me how zone blocking has benefitted us and how it correlates to our offense? Please be specific and just quote?

Exactly great post 7th. Our guys are struggling and my post was really trying to point out the why.

Denver Broncos used zone blocking to win 2 Super Bowls, they had an experienced OLine though. So it works I'll agree.

My point was with the running plays we run, straight ahead dives around either side of our guards, we should be man on man blocking. The zone to me would be better if we ran more counters and misdirections. We don't though.

LINK

This breaks down how Grimes specifically recruits and coaches his OLine. His style and take on zone.

The timing is critical because it calls for double teaming and quick releases. Look at the Wisconsin tape to see our OLine wasting time chipping in on double teams and being late on the 2nd level guy resulting in a lot busted run plays. There blocking seemed forced and scripted, I definitely think we need more man on man blocking and let our running backs make the plays on the next level.

Lsu has been using inside zone for years. It is not new to this year...they run a ton of zone boss with the two tight set. Basically zone with the fullback as a cleanup insert. It's been lsu's most effective run play the last 6-7 years. Everyone in the country runs inside zone. And to answer someone else's question, 7th ward's description of the line's decision making occurs pre snap. Lineman asks 2 questions:
Do I have a play side gap threat? If yes, step play side anticipating the block. If no, go to 2nd question:

Do I have a backside shoulder player? If yes step play side then post double team backside shoulder player as you climb to second level gap responsibility. If no, step flat and climb to second level player.

Also 90-50-10 rule to consider: if you have a DL lined up in your gap there is a 90% chance he will be in your gap post snap. If there is a head up player on you or the next OK playside of you there is a 50% chance he will be in your gap post snap. If there is no apparent threat to your gap by a DL there is a 10% chance a DL will stunt into it post snap hence always taking a play side step at snap.

Grimes scheme require quick release and a lot of the decision making has to happen during the play. It's causing confusion and slowing down the actual blocking.

I was going to say, it sounds a bit Lou Tepperish! I will never forget the image of Lou Tepper and his chalk board on the sideline. The glazed over look of the defensive players said it all!