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L'Auberge petitions for annexation to Baton Rouge

Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:20 pm
Posted by pistolpete23
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:20 pm
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:22 pm to
It's clear the businesses requesting annexations are scared shitless of a St. George and want to hedge their bets. It's unfortunate as I sympathize with why St. George is trying to break away as BR has neglected them and the schools they send their kids too. But no matter what in all of this, it's clear that south BR still swings a pretty damn big dick in terms of money and influence because why else would BR be going nuclear on the incorporation effort?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:40 pm to
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St. George is trying to break away as BR has neglected them and the schools they send their kids too*.
*to

I hope you realize one of those proposed St George schools that "neglects" their children was just named a National Blue Ribbon School last week.

Not even Baton Rouge Magnet High School nor Zachary High School achieved that honor this year.

Only Catholic High School and Parkview Elementary made it this year from East Baton Rouge Parish.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:33 pm to
I think it's clear that businesses like L'Auberge and Celtic and people like Charles Lambert are very political and respond to politicians.

They are doing what they feel is best for their bottom lines and that is the American way .

Meanwhile SG people will remember what Mary Olive said and how ruthless her boss went after the SG movement .



Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:54 pm to


Russian vs Sprocket
Posted by cssamerican
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:56 pm to
They know what the tax hit is if they annex with the city of Baton Rouge and it is obvious that they feel it will be less than what it will be in the city of St. George.

That should concern those who believe their taxes will not go up after they create the city of St. George. Because the people who are paid to know are showing us what they believe is going to happen.
Posted by TOKEN
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:57 pm to
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Russian vs Sprocket


In the debates, I have Sorocket up on style points but Russian wearing him down lately.
Posted by Radiojones
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:58 pm to
So will L'Auberge now fall under BR police jurisdiction and fire protection? Seems like it will take a long time for either to respond.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

They know what the tax hit is if they annex with the city of Baton Rouge and it is obvious that they feel it will be less than what it will be in the city of St. George.

That should concern those who believe their taxes will not go up after they create the city of St. George. Because the people who are paid to know are showing us what they believe is going to happen.


I think it's a foregone conclusion that taxes will rise. The question is by how much?

If those advocating SG say otherwise then I got some beach front property, in Arizona.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:27 pm to
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And this has been my biggest beef with the SG organizers all along. They put on their website that taxes won't have to go up. It's a lie they are telling people in hopes they can get the vote to incorporate done before they have to break the bad news to their citizens about how they need more money. It's a crooked scam which is not surprising when you see who some of the organizers are and how they make their money now.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:42 pm to
If they are telling people their taxes won't go up then this really is a scam.

On the other hand, if people accept it as "fact" that taxes will go up then I have no problem with SG incorporating.

Bottom Line: Taxes will most certainly have to be raised
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 8:44 pm
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:01 pm to
I have property in both areas.

Baton Rouge taxes will go up a lot higher to pay for the city services they have to provide. Think about every time they annex an area sooner or later a fire station will have to be built along with hiring more people that are union. Then add retirements and wow it adds up quickly.

St George yes taxes will go up also, but not as bad as inside the city of Baton Rouge.

Sooner or later every resident of this parish will pay for Kip Holdens Political Blunder.

To stop this Baton Rouge needs it own city government.

The parish needs it own separate government.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:51 pm to
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St George yes taxes will go up also, but not as bad as inside the city of Baton Rouge.
Please provide your analysis supporting your statements. And, please, no more balloon analogies.

So more taxes for everyone in EBR Parish? No wonder everyone should be supporting SG incorporating!!! Yay!!! Let's give the government even more of our money!

Wait! Didn't you post in another thread you are paid by taxpayers?

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:03 pm to
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If they are telling people their taxes won't go up then this really is a scam.

It's on the St George incorporation website in the Frequently Asked Questions section. LINK
Their statement about how much the SG area would collect in sales taxes was BEFORE the annexations. The total amount they claim thay will collect has been reduced by between $16 million & $20 million, including casino fees and property taxes.

Plus their spokesman has been quoted saying it several times in the BR & New Orleans newspaper that no new taxes would be needed for either a new city or a new school district. And this is in spite of their press release they would buy property for, build, equip and staff 6 new schools.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 2:37 am to
quote:

It's clear the businesses requesting annexations are scared shitless of a St. George and want to hedge their bets. It's unfortunate as I sympathize with why St. George is trying to break away as BR has neglected them and the schools they send their kids too. But no matter what in all of this, it's clear that south BR still swings a pretty damn big dick in terms of money and influence because why else would BR be going nuclear on the incorporation effort?
Bull shite, I have lived in the proposed city of ST. George since 1990 - I get my services and are very pleased with them. On the schools - the school board has elections for their members.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14335 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 2:39 am to
quote:

I think it's a foregone conclusion that taxes will rise. The question is by how much? If those advocating SG say otherwise then I got some beach front property, in Arizona.
yep, same folk believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa. Maybe Lionel is both.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 6:13 am to
quote:

I think it's a foregone conclusion that taxes will rise.


How will BR's taxes not rise taking on all the extra incorporated areas?

Better question, when have taxes not gone up in any city in America over a certain time span?
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 7:02 am to
1. Yes I worked for a big dept in california
2. Yes I own a few commercial properties and outdoor power equipment and nursery business with another partner in california. All.taxes I paid easily paid my salary and a lot of everyone elses share of taxes.
3. I do also own rental, farm land, and commercial property in Louisiana and more than pay my fare share of taxes in both areas of EBRP. Probably a lot more than you even if you own land or apt complex off highland road.


Difference
1. My property values are still holding strong in california andy property taxes go up to cover services which are a lot better than here.


Baton Rouge
1.city where only working on downtown and rest of city dieing along with property taxes.
2. Just sold a few properties due to area to bad even to rent and property apraisal went down $20k even after updating due to area. Most people buying properties will be under homestead exemption. Ones paying property tax eventually their tax burden will.go down with reduced property values.

That means less revenue which is what your services run off of.
Now you have a city wanting to grow while taking on more responsibility.
Who going to pay it the people that get the sweet back door kip.holden tax break or you avg joe citizen?

Guess what once the kip holden sweet deal ends the.present property owner will sell to.next sucker who has to charge more rent as in mall or more for services such as the casino. Then next thing moves near it in a cheaper spot so you have an empty eye sore.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 7:30 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 7:44 am to
Have you had a stroke recently?
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 8:09 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 8:21 am to
There actually should be two discussions regarding taxes.

If SG is incorporated there will be taxes required to fund the city.

Then later on if an ISD is formed there will be taxes required to support the school district.

I believe there is plenty enough revenue to run a city without raising taxes, and evidence of that is how BR proper cried when SG pushed for a new city. They use SG taxes to fund their city indicating a flow of money from the suburbs to the urban center.

I believe there is enough taxes being collected to run a school system; however, I do not think there is enough current tax money to build the necessary schools and capital projects for a new ISD.

I think anyone who wants SG and a new school system needs to realize that it might not be "free" so to speak. There might be a price to pay, and that this is definitely something that should be discussed, studied, so that people could be informed and make an informed decision before they vote.

And I agree, the SG committee hasn't done a good job of that.
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