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From 9 quarters of shut out ball to pretty much universal concern about the D

Posted on 10/3/14 at 7:10 am
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 7:10 am
Not sure what that says. Probably just that we need to get a better quality of cupcakes.

It does seem like a lot of the yards against us have come on long runs caused by people being out of position. Maybe if that can somehow be corrected the D will improve significantly
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85035 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 7:11 am to
People overreact and read too much into everything. It's somewgere in the middle
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 7:12 am to
quote:

It does seem like a lot of the yards against us have come on long runs caused by people being out of position.


Nah bruh welter is out there to make sure that doesn't happen.
This post was edited on 10/3/14 at 7:13 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72643 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 7:12 am to
rent a wins are fool's gold. when you play real teams you see where you are.
Posted by Come2Conquer
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
4794 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 7:13 am to
Who didn't see this from the beginning?
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21121 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 7:14 am to
Our problems on Defense are at 3 positions - the 2 DTs and MLB. We also regularly have our safeties out of position on run support.

I have no idea why the middle of the field is so wide open for us when teams run there. It is ridiculous.

We all know that if we cannot stop the run, we will get abused. That is what has happened.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 7:20 am to
Cupcakes
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 7:23 am to
quote:

rent a wins are fool's gold. when you play real teams you see where you are.





Posted by Jthomley
Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
379 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 7:26 am to
The 2 quality teams as miles calls them , pretty much ran all over the defense, not sure why Wisconsin stopped running in 2nd half but until then they put up some yards on the ground. Defense is way off from what I am use to seeing the last 2 years. Not sure if it's talent , lack of experience. , or coaching
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38409 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 7:28 am to
It means we shut out ULM and Sam Houston St. Why people thought that would somehow translate into us being dominant in the SEC I have no idea.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 7:57 am to
quote:

rent a wins are fool's gold. when you play real teams you see where you are.

Me personally, I don't count rent-a-win stats when evaluating a player or the team as a whole. I look at these "contests" as spring training games.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36903 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Me personally, I don't count rent-a-win stats when evaluating a player or the team as a whole. I look at these "contests" as spring training games.


Do you count them for other teams?
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 8:28 am to
quote:

9 quarters of shut out ball

let's compare the defense to actualy SEC opponents. shut outs against lower tier schools mean nothing. it's a glorified practice.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73493 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 8:30 am to
quote:

let's compare the defense to actualy SEC opponents


Wisconsin is just as good as most SEC opponents.
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Wisconsin is just as good as most SEC opponents.

yeah and for almost 3 qtrs the D got their asses handed to them by wisky.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
14107 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 9:42 am to
quote:

yeah and for almost 3 qtrs the D got their asses handed to them by wisky.



Until their coach went full retard.
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Until their coach went full retard.

it definitely helped. i will give some credit to our D though.

basically i'm saying the shut out ball against inferiors was the exception, not the norm. the norm is last yr and 3 qtrs vs Wisc and 3.5 qtrs vs State.

Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64660 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 9:45 am to
Until their coach went full retard.

No credit to Chavis or our D. Tards.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27517 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 9:52 am to
The middle is open because Chavis' 4-2-5 scheme has been figured out. It works good against TAMU and passing offenses but not so much against a multi faceted team like Moo State or a power run like Wisco. Look what Prescott and Co. did to get those advantages... they spread the defense out (5 receivers) forcing LB's to move into coverage positions on the perimeter. That forces a safety to make the choice to either come up or to stay back 15-20 yards to cover a receiver cutting deep across the middle. All you need is a good block on a DT and someone to occupy the DE and it's a hole even Harvey Williams grandmother could run through

Also Welter is not very good, he can be faked out very easily at pre snap.
Posted by spike0311
Member since Sep 2012
177 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 10:44 am to
Defensive schemes can be figured out, just like offensive ones. The LSU defense can be run on. Look at any good power rushing team over the last 3-4 years. They have had success. Unless that changes, LSU will lose 4 more games this year.
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