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The thing that puzzles me about the QB situation: play calling
Posted on 9/29/14 at 6:47 am
Posted on 9/29/14 at 6:47 am
The common perception has been that Harris has been held out because "he's not ready." But when I think back to the play calling during the MSU game, and while Jennings was in during the NMS game, then compare it to the play calling/formations used during Harris's time in the NMS game, it ALMOST seems to me that Jennings was the QB being "protected" by "safe" formations/play calling.
Anyone else find that weird?
I'm typically not the sort of person to utter the following...I guess I've been exposed to the Rantivirus: It's almost as if Miles has been punking the world all along - knowing Harris was the most dangerous QB, hoping to unleash him against Auburn, and frustrated that he had to tip his hand sooner than he wanted (thinking we could beat MSU & NMS without him).
I'm sure that's not the case. But the play calling & formations when Harris are in sure seem more like the "real" offense.
Anyone else find that weird?
I'm typically not the sort of person to utter the following...I guess I've been exposed to the Rantivirus: It's almost as if Miles has been punking the world all along - knowing Harris was the most dangerous QB, hoping to unleash him against Auburn, and frustrated that he had to tip his hand sooner than he wanted (thinking we could beat MSU & NMS without him).
I'm sure that's not the case. But the play calling & formations when Harris are in sure seem more like the "real" offense.
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 6:56 am to BrookhavenBengal
Harris found the secret playbook.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 6:58 am to BrookhavenBengal
Cam can be more creative with play calling when the offense executes early down and distance. It's that simple. Jennings never gets to that point.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 6:58 am to themunch
I've thought this as well, Jennings wasn't doing anything that complex, and if anything some of the stuff Harris ran with the run option, etc, vs New Mexico St seemed even more complex.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 6:59 am to GumboPot
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Cam can be more creative with play calling when the offense executes early down and distance. It's that simple. Jennings never gets to that point.
Good point. I hadn't considered that.
ETA: I'll have to watch again, though, to compare early down formations and calls.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 7:00 am
Posted on 9/29/14 at 6:59 am to GumboPot
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Cam can be more creative with play calling when the offense executes early down and distance
i think that's right...
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:02 am to BrookhavenBengal
Also, during Harris's first drive the play calling was Milesesque (extremely conservative).
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:02 am to BrookhavenBengal
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..I guess I've been exposed to the Rantivirus
Dude, you might want to have that checked. That carries some severe symptoms and can result in a significant loss in IQ points if left untreated.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:05 am to BrookhavenBengal
I noticed it, and was thinking that I hope the Jennings play calling isn't what Harris has to run when we have a week to "prepare" Harris should he get the nod. ie Diamond Formation etc
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 7:07 am
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:20 am to BrookhavenBengal
Agreed. I think it also just boils down to Jennings cant make a lot of the throws that Harris can (i.e. rollout 20 yard comeback routes) which helps us open it up. But it is strange. Normally it's the younger, more physically gifted yes less experienced QB who has a simpler playbook but gets by with more improv and talent. However it seems not only does Harris have more talent, he has more formations and plays at his disposal.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:28 am to BrookhavenBengal
I just wanted to add the following points:
1.) When Harris is in the game he seems to have "command" of the offense. The communication between the sidelines and Harris seems a bit crisper. I don't know why that is.
2.) Harris definitely has more natural ability to "make something out of nothing".
3.) Harris has upper level spacial awareness. He has a better sense of foot placement in the pocket and has a better sense of when to either step up into or out of the pocket. Harris's spacial awareness makes our OL look good.
4.) Because of 1-3, Cam and ultimately Miles, will feel more comfortable opening the playbook. This will put defenses further on their heels.
1.) When Harris is in the game he seems to have "command" of the offense. The communication between the sidelines and Harris seems a bit crisper. I don't know why that is.
2.) Harris definitely has more natural ability to "make something out of nothing".
3.) Harris has upper level spacial awareness. He has a better sense of foot placement in the pocket and has a better sense of when to either step up into or out of the pocket. Harris's spacial awareness makes our OL look good.
4.) Because of 1-3, Cam and ultimately Miles, will feel more comfortable opening the playbook. This will put defenses further on their heels.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:31 am to Methuselah
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Dude, you might want to have that checked. That carries some severe symptoms and can result in a significant loss in IQ points if left untreated.
I know, right? I found myself shaking my head even as I typed it, thinking "Good grief. Am I a Rantard now?"
I may need an enema.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:33 am to BrookhavenBengal
Harris started from the last page of the playbook and worked his way to the front
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:33 am to themunch
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Harris found the secret playbook.
This.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:39 am to GumboPot
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1.) When Harris is in the game he seems to have "command" of the offense. The communication between the sidelines and Harris seems a bit crisper. I don't know why that is.
2.) Harris definitely has more natural ability to "make something out of nothing".
3.) Harris has upper level spacial awareness. He has a better sense of foot placement in the pocket and has a better sense of when to either step up into or out of the pocket. Harris's spacial awareness makes our OL look good.
4.) Because of 1-3, Cam and ultimately Miles, will feel more comfortable opening the playbook. This will put defenses further on their heels.
I agree with all of that, plus two more (though the first may fall under what you call "spacial awareness"):
1) Harris seems more capable of checking down. Further, he keeps his eyes downfield. On that TD to Dupre, he felt pressure, escaped to his left, THOUGHT about running, but kept his eyes downfield and found Dupre. Not to mention the excellent pass while moving left.
2)Harris also didn't seem bothered by pressure. On the out he threw from the left hash to the right sideline (I forgot who caught it), he had a defender bearing down on him - right in his face. But he didn't throw off his back foot. He still stepped into the throw, and into the defender. Beautiful throw.
All these points further confuse the narrative of "Harris isn't ready!" The things you listed, plus the two I just listed, make Harris look like the more "ready" of the two.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 7:41 am
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:06 am to BrookhavenBengal
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But when I think back to the play calling during the MSU game, and while Jennings was in during the NMS game, then compare it to the play calling/formations used during Harris's time in the NMS game, it ALMOST seems to me that Jennings was the QB being "protected" by "safe" formations/play calling.
the offense that Jennings ran is the one Les wants to use. It calls for the QB to make the reads and adjustments, and to identify the pass coverage in order to find the open man. This is probably where Harris is behind in practice, hence the quotes by Les that Harris isn't quite there yet. When Harris was in the team basically ran "check with me" the entire time, which means Cam was making the call after looking the defense over.
It's pretty obvious at this point, that Harris in the "check with me" is the more effective strategy. So the dilemma for Miles, much like at other times in the past, stick with what is working now, or continue to try to make progress on the offense you really want to run.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 8:13 am
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:10 am to BrookhavenBengal
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But when I think back to the play calling during the MSU game, and while Jennings was in during the NMS game, then compare it to the play calling
It's because you don't understand the game. Most fans think passing out of a spread offense is more pressure than pitching the ball out of a two back set. It's not. The difference is that the pressure in the first case comes mostly after the snap, and the pressure in the second case comes completely before the snap.
The QB has make decisions at the los about what play to run and where. It takes a veteran decision maker.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:12 am to BrookhavenBengal
I have thought this as well and I think Harris does not audible out of the original play call like Jennings does. I have noticed that Jennings will put his hand in a fist behind him to change the play to run 80% percent of the time. Maybe Harris just executes the play called in.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:24 am to GumboPot
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Cam can be more creative with play calling when the offense executes early down and distance. It's that simple. Jennings never gets to that point.
Jennings may never get to that point because he isn't as talented, but that is still no reason to only let him run toss dives out the I all day. They could still get a little "exotic" with him.
However, I hope that we have seen the last of Jennings as the starter. Brandon Harris has the high caliber arm, wheels, leadership, and play making.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:25 am to ForeLSU
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(I forgot who caught it),
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