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Expectations too high?
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:59 pm
I know we have been the greatest, have one of the best venues, best fans, best recruits, best coaches, and are one of the greatest college football programs in the history of college football, but do our year-to-year "expectations" of being this each year cause us to become this "rant" and eat our own and each other?
We lost a pretty good QB, a great RB, and our 2 best combination receivers of all time, not to mention the other 6, 7, or 8 starters that left early(again). We lost more than half our starters from a team that went 10-3. Our "next year" QBs rarely got quality snaps during the year.
I think part of it is our need to avenge 1/9, and until that happens, our young teams/players/coaches will have to suffer this wrath.
If we lower our expectations a little, it might be possible for them to overachieve.
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We lost a pretty good QB, a great RB, and our 2 best combination receivers of all time, not to mention the other 6, 7, or 8 starters that left early(again). We lost more than half our starters from a team that went 10-3. Our "next year" QBs rarely got quality snaps during the year.
I think part of it is our need to avenge 1/9, and until that happens, our young teams/players/coaches will have to suffer this wrath.
If we lower our expectations a little, it might be possible for them to overachieve.
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 11:05 pm to LSUBS88
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We lost a pretty good QB, a great RB, and our 2 best combination receivers of all time,
That's nice. A&M lost more than that...and they have the #2 ranked offense in the country.
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Our "next year" QBs rarely got quality snaps during the year.
Kenny Hill had less experience than Jennings coming into the year, and media outlets are promoting him as a Heisman candidate.
The expectations can never be too high at a place like this. If anything, you don't want the expectations to slip.
Other teams lose plenty of talent each year to the NFL as well, although I don't see Alabama fans begging for an 8-4 finish this year...
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 9/24/14 at 11:17 pm to Cs
Ok, it helps to have a more open offense that let's the kids play.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 11:23 pm to Cs
Cs is right. Expectations are high because of the money put in these days. You have been in the top 10 in recruiting for more that 5 years now. Other teams change their philosophies according to who they have recruited, but not good ole Less. He plugs two spread option, pistol style QB's into tight arse formations of which they have never played before. Its like watching a damn goaline offense every play. Nothing that Miles has done in the past will suit any of the players we currently have. Now, he can right the ship and change the scheme or stick to his old stubborn as ways and let the ship explode.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 11:31 pm to crobe18
We were more talented than the team we lost to Sat night. That's not an expectation problem. It's a coaching one b
Posted on 9/24/14 at 11:34 pm to LSUBS88
Is not getting blown out by MS State at home at night too high of expectations? Is seeing some creativity, flexibility, and action from the coaching too high of an expectation?
Expectations will always be too high most of the time in any sports. The criticism this staff is facing is legitimate and isn't some brand new problem. It's like after 2008 Miles is terrified to risk turnovers from the QB spot is content to live and die by a predictable and safe offense which results in lots of punts and low points and puts pressure on the defense. Miles has been able to get away with this in the past because LSU fielded some unbelievable defenses, but if you couldn't see that his management of the offense back then was equally problematic then you were blind. Anyone could see this coming as soon as the defense took a step back, which was inevitable.
And lots of people predicted a few losses this season, expectations are often within reason. We looked absolutely terrible Saturday night, and barring the last few minutes of the game, in which Harris and an opening of the offense sparked the scoring, we got our butts kicked by MISSISSIPPI STATE. Albeit the best version of MS. State we've seen in some time, but the performance was inexcusable.
Expectations will always be too high most of the time in any sports. The criticism this staff is facing is legitimate and isn't some brand new problem. It's like after 2008 Miles is terrified to risk turnovers from the QB spot is content to live and die by a predictable and safe offense which results in lots of punts and low points and puts pressure on the defense. Miles has been able to get away with this in the past because LSU fielded some unbelievable defenses, but if you couldn't see that his management of the offense back then was equally problematic then you were blind. Anyone could see this coming as soon as the defense took a step back, which was inevitable.
And lots of people predicted a few losses this season, expectations are often within reason. We looked absolutely terrible Saturday night, and barring the last few minutes of the game, in which Harris and an opening of the offense sparked the scoring, we got our butts kicked by MISSISSIPPI STATE. Albeit the best version of MS. State we've seen in some time, but the performance was inexcusable.
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 9/24/14 at 11:43 pm to ChewyDante
When you expect people to spend hundreds/thousands of dollars on tickets, parking, etc the expectations will be high.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:03 am to LSUBS88
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best coaches
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We lost more than half our starters from a team that went 10-3. Our "next year" QBs rarely got quality snaps during the year.
With the talent we had last year we should of beat Ole Miss and Georgia and maybe had a shot at the NC. Every team loses talent to the nfl every year and theres no excuse for us to get demolished by state like that at HOME.
How about, is our coaches salary too high?
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:03 am to harry coleman beast
No...I think most reasonable people were expecting 9-3. Everyone including myself are butt hurt over the physical beating our lines suffered. At the same those 9-3 thoughts were based on a really good OL and a solid D that might have some growing pains at DT and MLB.
A program without expectations isn't going anywhere for a few years.
A program without expectations isn't going anywhere for a few years.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:10 am to LSUBS88
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If we lower our expectations a little, it might be possible for them to overachieve.
7-5
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:18 am to Cs
quote:And Bama is rolling along offensively with a QB that hasn't previously taken a snap in a live game and a transfer.
Kenny Hill had less experience than Jennings coming into the year, and media outlets are promoting him as a Heisman candidate.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 4:00 am to ChewyDante
quote:i completely agree!
Posted by ChewyDante Is not getting blown out by MS State at home at night too high of expectations? Is seeing some creativity, flexibility, and action from the coaching too high of an expectation? Expectations will always be too high most of the time in any sports. The criticism this staff is facing is legitimate and isn't some brand new problem. It's like after 2008 Miles is terrified to risk turnovers from the QB spot is content to live and die by a predictable and safe offense which results in lots of punts and low points and puts pressure on the defense. Miles has been able to get away with this in the past because LSU fielded some unbelievable defenses, but if you couldn't see that his management of the offense back then was equally problematic then you were blind. Anyone could see this coming as soon as the defense took a step back, which was inevitable. And lots of people predicted a few losses this season, expectations are often within reason. We looked absolutely terrible Saturday night, and barring the last few minutes of the game, in which Harris and an opening of the offense sparked the scoring, we got our butts kicked by MISSISSIPPI STATE. Albeit the best version of MS. State we've seen in some time, but the performance was inexcusable.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:33 am to LSUBS88
I expected 3 or 4 losses this year. I didn't expect to get dominated at home, at night, by an unranked, significantly less talented team. Miles is good for at least one shite show of a bed wetting to an inferior team practically every year. That's not a trait of great coaching.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:41 am to Alatgr
Is it asking too much to ask the O and D lines to at least look like some semblance of college level athletes???
I don't think that's asking too much...
I don't think that's asking too much...
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:43 am to harry coleman beast
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When you expect people to spend hundreds/thousands of dollars on tickets, parking, etc the expectations will be high.
And justifiably so....
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:45 am to LSUBS88
I expected 9-3 before the year. I didn't expect to be dominated in every phase of the game by MSU when LSU effectively had 3 weeks to start installing a gameplan. There's a difference (for me at least) in hitting a W/L expectation and seeing improvements fundamentally and seeing some energy on both sides of the ball.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:46 am to LSUBS88
People are tired of seeing the damn gumps simply reload and Les not keeping pace. People are also tired of his damn stupid arse offensive mind set which resembles the offense we ran in High School in 1985.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:51 am to TigerFanNKaty
Elite teams usually have high expectations.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:58 am to HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
I expect Choctaw and Ballcaster to come in here and call all of you terrible fans and remind you all that the program is in perfect shape.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:59 am to Cs
well said
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