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Genre question: "Heavy Pop Metal", Harsh Vocals, among other things
Posted on 9/19/14 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 9/19/14 at 11:38 pm
This is an incredibly stupid stigma I've seen associated with some bands lately in the metal genre. I'll probably get blasted for this but oh well. It's something I'm curious about.
This topic really revolves around a band I came across recently that I listened to their first album and absolutely HATED. They're called Periphery. They're a heavy progressive metal band out of the Baltimore/DC area. I couldn't stand them only because of their VOCALIST. Spencer Sotelo seemed, in the first album, like a liability and somewhat forced to get the band to have an album put out there. The album was real raw and it was obviously really heavy with some death elements sprinkled all in there.
The next album is where all this comes into question however. If you've ever listened to Periphery 2: This Time It's Personal, you'll notice there are some OUTSTANDING vocals (clean) smack dab in the middle of all the other harsh ones. And people absolutely love or hate them for that. A few examples:
Ragnarok - 3:07
Make Total Destroy - 1:25
^Example 1 and 2 last no longer than about 15-35 seconds
Those points in the album feature what I've seen in a large number of reviews as "heavy pop metal." Is that an accurate assessment based on what you hear in the videos above? Is that even the correct grouping? Have at it. One of the most polarizing bands I've ever heard to say the least. I equate listening to them like getting used to beer when you're young. You just have to develop a taste for it.
This topic really revolves around a band I came across recently that I listened to their first album and absolutely HATED. They're called Periphery. They're a heavy progressive metal band out of the Baltimore/DC area. I couldn't stand them only because of their VOCALIST. Spencer Sotelo seemed, in the first album, like a liability and somewhat forced to get the band to have an album put out there. The album was real raw and it was obviously really heavy with some death elements sprinkled all in there.
The next album is where all this comes into question however. If you've ever listened to Periphery 2: This Time It's Personal, you'll notice there are some OUTSTANDING vocals (clean) smack dab in the middle of all the other harsh ones. And people absolutely love or hate them for that. A few examples:
Ragnarok - 3:07
Make Total Destroy - 1:25
^Example 1 and 2 last no longer than about 15-35 seconds
Those points in the album feature what I've seen in a large number of reviews as "heavy pop metal." Is that an accurate assessment based on what you hear in the videos above? Is that even the correct grouping? Have at it. One of the most polarizing bands I've ever heard to say the least. I equate listening to them like getting used to beer when you're young. You just have to develop a taste for it.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:06 am to FourThreeForty
havent listened to them. But one of my favorite albums a couple years ago was Wu Lyf and they had a song called Heavy Pop........may be where the term is coming from.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:56 am to FourThreeForty
Get a real family
This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 1:01 am
Posted on 9/20/14 at 6:59 am to Zappas Stache
quote:
havent listened to them. But one of my favorite albums a couple years ago was Wu Lyf and they had a song called Heavy Pop........may be where the term is coming from.
I hated when those guys broke up. That was a fantastic album, and I was looking forward to more.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 7:04 am to FourThreeForty
As for the original post:
It doesn't really bother me, but one of the things I liked about bands like BTBAM was the clean/beautiful vocal and instrumental passages interspersed with the heavier stuff.
It doesn't really bother me, but one of the things I liked about bands like BTBAM was the clean/beautiful vocal and instrumental passages interspersed with the heavier stuff.
This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 7:05 am
Posted on 9/20/14 at 9:04 am to FourThreeForty
quote:
I couldn't stand them only because of their VOCALIST
I feel the same way about BTBAM. Love the music, hate the singers' harsh vocals, love his clean vocals. I find myself putting up with his harsh vocals just to get to the clean part of the song. I think their last album, The Parallax II: Future Sequence, is brilliant but the harsh vocals still grate on me.
It's strange because I like other band's harsh vocals but I don't like theirs.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 11:08 am to FourThreeForty
I saw Periphy open for Deftones last year. They sounded like a cross between Meshuggah and emo. I didn't like them. The harsh verse clean chorus trend is hip among the younger crowd these days.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 4:32 pm to FourThreeForty
After taking a listen, I wouldn't put Periphery in my daily rotation, but I'd give a listen here and there to break things up.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:55 am to FourThreeForty
Periphery is bad arse, love Misha's riffs
if you don't like their vocals(which many fans agree with you about) they usually release instrumental versions of songs
The opening riff for All New Materials is GOAT
They are generally labeled with the very contentious term Djent which is basically a subgenre of progressive metal
Check out bands similar to them, with song titles in "
Tesseract, "April"
Skyharbor "Celestial"
Northlane "Quantum Flux"
Volumes "Wormholes" "Edge of the Earth"
Corelia "The Sound of Glaciers Moving"
if you like the sound but dont want the singing
Animals as Leaders
Scale the Summit "Atlas Novus"
Chimp Spinner "Supererogation"
a lot of the progressive metal instrumental groups have a bit of smooth jazz influence, you can hear it well in "Supererogation"
if you don't like their vocals(which many fans agree with you about) they usually release instrumental versions of songs
The opening riff for All New Materials is GOAT
quote:Periphery is in no way heavy pop metal
"heavy pop metal."
They are generally labeled with the very contentious term Djent which is basically a subgenre of progressive metal
Check out bands similar to them, with song titles in "
Tesseract, "April"
Skyharbor "Celestial"
Northlane "Quantum Flux"
Volumes "Wormholes" "Edge of the Earth"
Corelia "The Sound of Glaciers Moving"
if you like the sound but dont want the singing
Animals as Leaders
Scale the Summit "Atlas Novus"
Chimp Spinner "Supererogation"
a lot of the progressive metal instrumental groups have a bit of smooth jazz influence, you can hear it well in "Supererogation"
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 8:10 am
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