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When did the NFL become our National Moral Compass?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 9/19/14 at 4:49 pm
There's a federal judge, Mark Fuller in Alabama who recently pleaded guilty to DV against his 2nd wife in Georgia and this is after divorce filling from his 1st marriage detailed years of abuse. Fuller has a lifetime appointment and presided over the trails of former Gov. Don Siegelman and former Health South CEO Richard Scrushy. He's a pretty powerful individual yet there's no national outrage or demands that he resign or that judicial branch of government be more transparent in how they address domestic violence charges against their employees.
The DA in the Ray Rice case saw the same tape people are grilling Goodell about and yet he's gone relatively unscathed. This is despite the DA going against the recommendation of a felony indictment by the Grand Jury. He instead agreed to a pre-trial diversion program. Why is there no one camped outside of his office demanding an explanation and greater accountability?
Looking to the NFL to "address" Domestic Violence, Child Abuse, and all other societal ills is dumb. Imagine if the mob mentality turned towards their local District Attorney's office and their record for prosecuting abusers? What if the media demanded answers about the level of funding for Child Welfare and other social service agencies tasked with addressing child abuse and well-being? How the NFL disciplines it's employees is not as important as knowing which of my state representatives supported the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act. One is nothing more than a talking point until the next scandal comes along while the other impacts the safety of my family and the community I reside in.
I said all of that to say, I wish people would learn to focus on the real issues . . . and yes it's tl/dr
The DA in the Ray Rice case saw the same tape people are grilling Goodell about and yet he's gone relatively unscathed. This is despite the DA going against the recommendation of a felony indictment by the Grand Jury. He instead agreed to a pre-trial diversion program. Why is there no one camped outside of his office demanding an explanation and greater accountability?
Looking to the NFL to "address" Domestic Violence, Child Abuse, and all other societal ills is dumb. Imagine if the mob mentality turned towards their local District Attorney's office and their record for prosecuting abusers? What if the media demanded answers about the level of funding for Child Welfare and other social service agencies tasked with addressing child abuse and well-being? How the NFL disciplines it's employees is not as important as knowing which of my state representatives supported the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act. One is nothing more than a talking point until the next scandal comes along while the other impacts the safety of my family and the community I reside in.
I said all of that to say, I wish people would learn to focus on the real issues . . . and yes it's tl/dr
Posted on 9/19/14 at 4:51 pm to undecided
When they decided they should be.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 4:53 pm to undecided
When the media dictated they should be.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 4:56 pm to undecided
When they started throwing stones in the glass house.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 4:59 pm to undecided
Goodell is the one who pushed the NFL into this direction.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 4:59 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
That's not nearly as sexy of a story as the NFL Commish being negligent in dealing with the Ray Rice situation. And sadly, most Americans are more familiar with the NFL, Ray Rice and Roger Goodell than who their local judge, representative or senator is. That is just the reality.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 5:02 pm to undecided
I agree with what you are saying, but the NFL/Goodell brought this on themselves, they created this monster. 10-15 years ago the NFL's MO was managing a football league. That has changed. The league itself has become a huge brand in its own right, bigger than the individual teams themselves in some respects. They are suffering the consequences for that now.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 5:11 pm to TigerintheNO
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Goodell is the one who pushed the NFL into this direction.
How? By being a strict disciplinarian?
This crap makes zero sense to me. Last year people were bashing him for being over harsh in his punishments.
Now the public has totally flip flopped and is wah wahhing and bitching because he wasn't tough enough.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 5:30 pm to sneakytiger
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The league itself has become a huge brand in its own right, bigger than the individual teams themselves in some respects. They are suffering the consequences for that now.
The same way their sponsor who is also a huge brand, Nike suffers consequences for those child sweat shops in India? Seeing Nike send out a statement against child abuse was probably the most schadenfreude moment in this entire ordeal.
We as consumers bear the blame for being so easily lead. Our society is ruled by mob mentality and faux moral outrage. We get angry at who/whatever the media, twitter, or even the MSB tells us too.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 5:42 pm to undecided
The NFL is so ubiquitous, how could it not be? It is the most popular entertainment in America and a tremendous cultural icon, so again, how could it not be?. To a degree, to what degree I don't really know, it does reflect our personalities and values as a society somewhat. Hence, people expecting certain things from players and coaches, whether it be the way they play the game, and the way they conduct themselves off the field. People give players archetypes to fit and ideals to live up to.
Sidenote: I wonder how many Ravens fans that rocked the Ray Rice jerseys when elevator-gate was going down, had previously ripped Johnny Manziel for his off-field antics?
Sidenote: I wonder how many Ravens fans that rocked the Ray Rice jerseys when elevator-gate was going down, had previously ripped Johnny Manziel for his off-field antics?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 5:42 pm to undecided
When they decided to kowtow to the media, i.e. PC crowd. They capitulated to the PC narrative to stay in good graces w/ the media/ESPN-Disney and gave their 'balls' away. Now when they don't conform to the PC narrative, constructed by the authoritarian PC police, they'll be destroyed by them. They should have told them to GFthemselves long ago. Now they're getting what they deserve.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 5:56 pm to 91TIGER
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y capitulated to the PC narrative to stay in good graces w/ the media/ESPN-Disney and gave their 'balls' away. Now when they don't conform to the PC narrative, constructed by the authoritarian PC police, they'll be destroyed by them. They should have told them to GFthemselves long ago
Agree with this.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:13 pm to undecided
This was a TL, did read, because I can't agree with you more OP. The outrage is entirely misdirected. Domestic violence isn't some new topic with pro sports. Should I be mad because someone sat out eight games, instead of sixteen? It's arbitrary compared to the more important issue at hand. All of a sudden the modern populous wants the NFL to be our leaders? How about Congress does something worth a damn, how about people send outrage to their local representatives as you say OP. Sports are merely entertainment. Time to send the anger elsewhere.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:24 pm to undecided
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The DA in the Ray Rice case saw the same tape people are grilling Goodell about and yet he's gone relatively unscathed
Easier to blame Goodell than some faceless DA. People's priorities are messed up. It's because they really don't care about this as much as they're letting on. They don't give a damn about Ray Rice's wife. They just want Goodell gone, and they'll assume any guise they need to push that agenda.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:30 pm to Goldrush25
goodell has always been a PC cya a-hole, just like his daddy
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:31 pm to undecided
I agree but something about glass houses
They did this to themselves
They did this to themselves
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:34 pm to undecided
Good thread but it belongs on the PT board.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:37 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:quote:How? By being a strict disciplinarian?
Goodell is the one who pushed the NFL into this direction.
What other sports league forces its players to wear pink a month out of the year?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:43 pm to gthog61
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goodell has always been a PC cya a-hole, just like his daddy
I wouldn't go that far. Goodell's dad was a profile in courage when he opposed the Vietnam War.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:02 pm to undecided
Agree. Asked similar thing on poli board
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