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Posted on 9/19/14 at 11:39 am
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 9/19/14 at 11:39 am
I chime in every once in a while, but I don't often ask for help. Often asking for more and more advice can sometimes make decisions even harder. Stick the the gut sort of thing.

But I got myself into a predicament of slightly epic proportions, and I'm stuck. So let's look at the team: STANDARD SCORING

QBs: Kaepernick, Romo
WRs: B. Marshall, W. Welker, Victor Cruz, T. Williams, Josh Gordon
RBs: Adrian Peterson, Giovanni Bernard, CJ Spiller, M. Asiata, Donald Brown
TE: Greg Olsen
K: Justin Tucker
DEF: San Francisco


Week 3 Starters in bold, problems in italics

So here's what happened: First, I had to autodraft half of the draft, so although I started out "strong" with Peterson, Bernard, Marshall, etc. I went auto in Round 6 and autodrafted Welker. Downhill from there.

Things were looking good though, strong performances from Bernard, only Welker down....so someone in my league drops Gordon. I'm confident after week 1 that I can make the right moves and compete, so Gordon is a good stash. Pick him up and drop the extra defense. Three Days Later...AP hits. Drop a TE backup pick up Asiata. This week I was low on waiver due to all the action with AP and trying to cover so although I put in for Davis and Bradshaw, I end up with Brown. Not bad, but only good for the next 4 weeks or so.

I can't tell if I should drop Peterson. I think I should drop Gordon and Grab Brian Quick, maybe? And I can drop Asiata and pick up McKinnon as a risk, or K. Robinson for another at least sure thing for 4-6 weeks. But none of that is solid or worthwhile.

Romo is Romo. If I drop him and pick up a Dalton or Locker, I'm sure Romo puts up 35 points. Both my QBs were autodrafted and it's a complete crapshoot week to week about who will put up points. Although I started Romo is 1 and Kaep in 2, so I played smart...or lucky, depends on how you look at it.

And clearly starting with week 4 I'll have to spin through byes at all my single player spots. I know that's coming.

Sitting at 2-0, hoping to make the year respectable at least. Competing for the championship might be out of reach.

Anyways, thoughts? What would the FB do?
This post was edited on 9/19/14 at 11:49 am
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72028 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 11:49 am to
I would probably look to drop Gordon for McKinnon. You should hold Asiata and see if either of those two guys emerge and get the bulk of the work. At this point, you almost have to keep Peterson and wait it out, too.


I would also consider dropping Romo for a WR like Quick. If a guy like Dalton is available to pick up right now, that tells me there should be a few decent QBs available should you need one. If no one owns Dalton, then surely no one will pick up Romo if you were to drop him. You can probably come back and get him if need be. That said, I would almost rather Dalton over both of your guys at this point.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 11:55 am to
My next move would be to drop down to 1 qb. It will give you at least a little breathing room to see what things look like in a week. After that unfortunately Gordon is the next one that needs to go if you need further room. I would try to push that off while waiting for news and seeing who else is worth keeping.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

I would probably look to drop Gordon for McKinnon. You should hold Asiata and see if either of those two guys emerge and get the bulk of the work. At this point, you almost have to keep Peterson and wait it out, too.


Yeah that's my thinking. I was on the verge of dropping AP this morning as people are saying he'll never play as a Viking again, but I just can't believe that.

Devoting half a bench to the Minn backfield isn't crazy?

quote:

That said, I would almost rather Dalton over both of your guys at this point.


I was fully set set to get Dalton until Green went down. That made this more complicated.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

My next move would be to drop down to 1 qb. It will give you at least a little breathing room to see what things look like in a week. After that unfortunately Gordon is the next one that needs to go if you need further room. I would try to push that off while waiting for news and seeing who else is worth keeping.


Seems to be the idea.

Thanks.

That's what I was thinking finding a way to cover until next week and make decisions there. Not sure I can judge Minn backs on one game though, that's a tough call.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:13 pm to
So the crazy Week 3 solution:

Drop Romo, Kaep, Gordon
Pickup Dalton, Quick, McKinnon

Or just drop Romo and Kaep, Pickup Dalton and McKinnon. I can probably stand starting T. Williams for one more week. After that it's Welker and the Concussion gamble week to week.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72028 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:17 pm to
Dalton does have that Week 4 bye. I did not realize that. So if he were to be your only QB, you would have to go looking for one in a week anyway. Romo and Kaep do not have byes till later in the year. You would probably do better to hold one of the guys you already have.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:20 pm to
Yeah just saw that too.

I'd probably drop Romo, so the big question is Gordon. To drop or not to drop? Otherwise it's ROmo for Dalton or Romo for McKinnon. If Dalton puts up another solid back end Top 10 week, I think he'll be a top pickup.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:23 pm to
You obviously could use Gordon to pair with Marshall down the stretch. But that is a long time to wait. You're 2-0 now, Id be inclined to hold Gordon until my team showed signs of struggling. Injuries and bye weeks could change your needs quickly.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Yeah that's my thinking. I was on the verge of dropping AP this morning as people are saying he'll never play as a Viking again, but I just can't believe that.


It's certainly possible that he won't play again this year. I would be strongly tempted to just get rid of him, but you simply have too much riding on him to cut bait with still so much uncertainty. I think the court date is October 7 or 8. You have to get to there before making a final decision.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Id be inclined to hold Gordon until my team showed signs of struggling.


I agree with this. If you make it to your league's playoffs Gordon could be huge. It would be a shame to get rid of him if you can help it. Of course it doesn't help you much if it looks like you are struggling to make it to the playoffs.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:28 pm to
So Romo for McKinnon?

It's the Asiata news that came out, he went from starter, to sharing the ball. I feel like I could be comfortable, maybe, dropping Asiata, grabbing McKinnon for the risk and leaning on Brown and Spiller for a few weeks. If McKinnon doesn't pan out then he's a drop candidate if things go south.

So Romo for Dalton and Asiata for McKinnon is tempting, but then again, that Minn. backfield, jsut ugh.

My problem is I think I want McKinnon and Dalton, but not sure of the drops.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

I agree with this. If you make it to your league's playoffs Gordon could be huge. It would be a shame to get rid of him if you can help it. Of course it doesn't help you much if it looks like you are struggling to make it to the playoffs.


Yup. My thinking picking up Gordon before AP went out was:

"Well if I make it to the playoffs and can start AP, Marshall, Gordon, Welker, I'd feel pretty good about my chances."
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:32 pm to
I think I would do Romo for mckinnon and kaep for dalton then deal with the bye when it comes next week. Just guessing that romo, kaep, or some other passable qb will still be out there next week. You just have to go back over the headache when you get there.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:48 pm to
Kaep has a shootout with Philly ahead. I'd keep him for Week 4.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:54 pm to
Whichever qb you feel best about. It just seemed like you are high on dalton. I would probably try to keep the one I wanted for sure the rest of the year.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:58 pm to
I am in that I just want some consistent QB play if I'm going to deal with these RB issues. Before it was the other way around...grab have two QBs who could put up 30 points or 10, roll the dice, keep it consistent with AP and Bernard most weeks. Now....RB's are untrustworthy, at least in the short term, would rather shore up QB's a bit.

Well the other idea is that no one would pick up Dalton on his bye week, roll the dice with that, Drop Romo for McKinnon and revisit post Minnesota game.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 1:26 pm to
Flacco, Dalton, and Locker are still available. QBs are plentiful for the most part.

Dropped Romo for McKinnon and I'll see what happens.

Thank you both for the help. It's probably the safest play to hold pat and watch the Minn work it out for a couple of weeks. Kaep can have an ok week against AZ, then has Philly in Week 4, I can safely play him for two weeks if I need, or if Dalton and Flacco go.

Nothing I do was going to dramatically increase my chances in the short term, so it's all about consistency and looking long term methinks.

Who knows I might be back in two weeks with that quandry. Week 3 should tell me a lot though.

This post was edited on 9/19/14 at 1:29 pm
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