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local gun ownership laws vs. Federal firearms regulations

Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:01 am
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:01 am
I know this has been beaten to death but how can you legally own a firearm in Louisiana if you're not convicted of a violent felony but not be able to purchase a firearm from a store?
How fricking idiotic is that?
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
3873 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:11 am to
not sure, what's the reason you can't purchase?
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:19 am to
can't pass the screening process. Well at least I believe i couldn't.
Posted by DrTyger
Covington
Member since Oct 2009
22325 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:22 am to
Someone can give it to you or a personal sale.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7406 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:23 am to
Just steal one
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Someone can give it to you
no. Purchasing a firearm for someone else from a business is illegal.

quote:

a personal sale.
is what I did. And it is legal in Louisiana hence the topic.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20417 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:24 am to
Do you know for a fact you are a pp- prohibited person?
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:25 am to
no. And as far as i know there's only one was to find out.
Lie on a FFL application
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:29 am to
Why did you go to prison?
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:30 am to
it was a long time ago. Don't feel like reiterating.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7406 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:31 am to
Just get someone to "gift" the gun to you
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38736 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:32 am to
This makes no sense. Are you saying you got delayed? That happens...
Posted by DrTyger
Covington
Member since Oct 2009
22325 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:33 am to
quote:

no. Purchasing a firearm for someone else from a business is illegal.



Straw purchases are. Giving a gun as a gift isn't.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:36 am to
quote:

This makes no sense. Are you saying you got delayed? That happens...
no man. shite
I'm a convicted felon but have way over 10 years since getting off my parole and pardoned.
I can legally own a gun in Louisiana but i'm pretty sure i would not pass the background check at a store through a FFL.
I would also like to be able to purchase firearms online but again,would be flagged i'm assuming
Posted by northern
Member since Jan 2014
1360 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:37 am to
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no. Purchasing a firearm for someone else from a business is illegal.


Not exactly. ATF Form 4473.

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Question 11.a. Actual Transferee/Buyer: For purposes of this form, you are the actual transferee/buyer if you are purchasing the firearm for yourself or otherwise acquiring the firearm for yourself (e.g., redeeming the firearm from pawn/retrieving it from consignment, firearm raffle winner). You are also the actual transferee/buyer if you are legitimately purchasing the firearm as a gift for a third party. ACTUAL TRANSFEREE/BUYER EXAMPLES: Mr. Smith asks Mr. Jones to purchase a firearm for Mr. Smith. Mr. Smith gives Mr. Jones the money for the firearm. Mr. Jones is NOT THE ACTUAL TRANS- FEREE/BUYER of the firearm and must answer “NO” to question 11.a. The licensee may not transfer the firearm to Mr. Jones. However, if Mr. Brown goes to buy a firearm with his own money to give to Mr. Black as a present, Mr. Brown is the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm and should answer “YES” to question 11.a. However, you may not transfer a firearm to any person you know or have reasonable cause to believe is prohibited under 18 U.S.C. § 922(g), (n), or (x).


EDIT: Link added. Page 4. ATF 4473
This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 10:39 am
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:40 am to
ok, you guys are straying away from the OP.
So my wife can purchase a gun and sell it to me.
Whopee
I'm talking about being able to purchase guns online. Me,myself,for me.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11891 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:42 am to
quote:

I can legally own a gun in Louisiana but i'm pretty sure i would not pass the background check at a store through a FFL.
I would also like to be able to purchase firearms online but again,would be flagged i'm assuming



You need to try and get it off your record. Selling a firearm privately to a felon (or a previous felon) is still against the law. Any private seller would not be a fan of straw selling.

I'm of the opinion that if your felony was non-violent and you have done the time, that you should be able to purchase a gun. But the law is the law.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38736 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:42 am to
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pardoned


quote:

can legally own a gun in Louisiana


quote:

i'm pretty sure i would not pass the background check at a store through a FFL


You should if you were really pardoned. I was charged with a felony as a young man. I beat the case with a dismissal of the charges, but I get delayed every time. Most places give it to you after 3 days. Academy made me wait because their policy is go/no go, and it took about a month to get the green light. I knew the clerk at the local courthouse and he said they(federal background check people) called and requested a copy of everything that had to do with the case.

The point is, if you took care of your stuff and there is a paper trail confirming the disposition of the case. Then you should be good...
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:49 am to
only way for me to find out would be to lie on the application since theoretically i am a convicted felon.
I'm not willing to do that.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:49 am to
quote:

it was a long time ago. Don't feel like reiterating.


Fair enough.

quote:

I would also like to be able to purchase firearms online but again,would be flagged i'm assuming


Thems the breaks.
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