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Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:29 pm
Posted by loopdog
Alexandria, La.
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:29 pm
I don't really know if this is the place to discuss this or even if this subject deserves discussion but here we go ! How does Southern Cal and No.Dame jump 5 spots each in the AP poll. Has that ever happened in the history of the world ? Do the media sports writers take their lead from the regular media by acting like they know shite? There are lots of arguing points pro and con ....But these 2 teams seem to have some sort of special dispensation from the Pope or something. Help me understand the rationale behind this thought pattern,please !
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:30 pm to
Have you ever heard of something called "money"?
Posted by JPinLondon
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:34 pm to
I would contend that ND deserved a 2-3 point bump for their 9/6 performance. Maybe, maybe 4 points but probably not. (Michigan was unranked, right? - but they were dominated, either way)

I'd say that Southern Cal deserved a 2-3 point bump for last Saturday. (Stanford WAS Top Ten, right?)


This early in the season, I'm actually ok with BIG moves in the polls... it should be VERY fluid in September.

But yea... 5 points each is a bit much.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:38 pm to
Yes it has happened before and more than just 5 places.Some of it depends on higher ranked teams losing or just who you beat. I'll give you an example, if the Vols beat OU, they will jump more than 5 spots, not likely, but strangers things happen. I know UT is not ranked but did get some votes.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12459 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:40 pm to
How much did Texas A&M jump? It happens.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63015 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

jump 5 spots each in the AP poll. Has that ever happened in the history of the world ?


LSU went from 7 to 2 between the second to last and last BCS poll in 2007.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:42 pm to
I have no problem with a team moving up 5 spots if they win a big game as an underdog........only if they are willing to drop that same team when they squeak by someone as a favorite.
Posted by loopdog
Alexandria, La.
Member since Nov 2011
467 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:45 pm to
My point is....LSU would probably have to beat the Seattle Seahawks to jump 5 spots. I don't know how good Stanford is this year but it's not like USC chewed up and spit them out. And Michigan ? I think beating Michigan is really overrated this year. What do you think Wisconsin will do to Michigan ?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18137 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:46 pm to
ignore the polls.

Now that we have a playoff selection committee, the polls are meaningless, unless you're just looking for something to argue about - which to me gets very tiresome. Besides, the polls are horribly flawed, and should get zero of your attention.
Posted by loopdog
Alexandria, La.
Member since Nov 2011
467 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:50 pm to
Thanks for setting me straight. I must have lost my frickin' mind. I thought polls at least showed a sense of respect !
Posted by MontanaTiger
Montana
Member since Oct 2008
3789 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Now that we have a playoff selection committee, the polls are meaningless, unless you're just looking for something to argue about - which to me gets very tiresome. Besides, the polls are horribly flawed, and should get zero of your attention.


Are you saying that the selection committee will be better than the polls? Because if you are, you are sadly mistaken.
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:01 pm to
Stanford v USC was #13 against #14, if I remember correctly.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18137 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Are you saying that the selection committee will be better than the polls? Because if you are, you are sadly mistaken.


yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

I'd rather have a bunch of people who understand the importance of their task debating objectively and at length which teams should be in the playoff. Hopefully it will be like the NCAA basketball committee, which I think we can all agree does a pretty darn good job, much better than silly polls.

The polls are simply a bunch of isolated sportswriters and/or coaches (who don't even fill in their poll, nor should they, because they're focusing only on their team and one opponent per week. Instead, they give it to their SID).

Give me the committee any day of the week.

The polls are a joke, and have been forever. And don't go talking about how good the BCS rankings are. Those are 2/3 polls and 1/3 computers. And of course the computers are programmed by humans, so whatever variables those humans want to use are programmed into the computer.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 2:08 pm
Posted by LSUcjb318
Member since Jul 2008
2364 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:10 pm to
I can't handle that space before the question mark.
Posted by loopdog
Alexandria, La.
Member since Nov 2011
467 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:14 pm to
I think you just shut my topic down ! Pure genius ! You are really smart ! and now I feel like such a fool for even bringing up this thread ! I think I'll go over to the SMU board and vote for you as their new head coach ! Sorry for all the inconvenience I've caused.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63015 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:46 pm to
have you smoked crystal meth recently?
Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 2:53 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 3:27 pm
Posted by NCDet4U
NC
Member since Oct 2011
457 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 3:00 pm to
Don't sweat it. Things will work themselves out. I always believe that high-ranking will decrease that "wanting" drive from players
Posted by Dick Macho
New Iberia
Member since Jun 2013
920 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 3:03 pm to
It sets up the future games that they play to appear to be bigger than they really are if their final rankings would be known.

Also, they need all the help that they can get getting into the playoffs when two or three SEC West teams would beat either of them in playoffs and just might take up two of the four spots if they don't keep their shite together.
Posted by Dick Macho
New Iberia
Member since Jun 2013
920 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

LSU went from 7 to 2 between the second to last and last BCS poll in 2007.


That was a very unique situation where the SEC champ had just lost in their last reg season game and had 2 total losses. It also helps when two of the teams in front of you choke it up big time.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 3:07 pm
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