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Krauthammer on Obama's ISIS Lie:

Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:00 pm
Posted by pistolpete23
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:00 pm

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But to me, the real issue is just the way he just lies about this the same way he did with ISIS. He didn't call ISIS the JV team, though he obviously did. In the middle of his sentence explaining this, which is ridiculous, he saying -- he actually interrupted himself to say, 'Chuck,' he says, 'and I'm being honest now.' Well, whenever a politician interrupts a sentence to put that in, you know what you are about to hear is a bald-faced lie. And he did it without flinching. You sort of have to tip your hat.

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Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:09 pm to
He's a pathological liar. It's pure narcissism.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 5:44 am to
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He's a pathological liar. It's pure narcissism.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98730 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 5:51 am to
Was listening to that on the way home yesterday. Laughed my arse off.
Posted by Jim Ignatowski
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
1383 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:12 am to
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He's a pathological liar. It's pure narcissism.
Posted by Jim Ignatowski
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
1383 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:25 am to
...this bastard lies with such ease...it's not even second nature to him....it IS his nature to lie.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51805 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:28 am to
Like my ole pappy used to say, "that dude would rather climb a tree to tell a lie when he could stand on the ground and tell the truth."
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19222 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:30 am to
I like Kraut, and Oboe is an obvious pathological liar, but...
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"whenever a politician interrupts a sentence to put that in, you know what you are about to hear is a bald-faced lie"
That's a weak pronouncement. Unless, is he offering this as a professional opinion? Because that would just be stupid. He can do better.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:32 am to
It's not a lie, if you believe it.







Posted by Jim Ignatowski
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
1383 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:37 am to
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That's a weak pronouncement. Unless, is he offering this as a professional opinion? Because that would just be stupid. He can do better


...normally you would be right...but Obama has been caught in so many lies during his tenure...that it's not often he speaks WITHOUT lying.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:42 am to
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It's not a lie, if you believe it.


quite profound constanzaism

the global warmist lie, yet they don't realize it because they actually believe it. O wakes up with a new reality every day, so who's to say his tripe is a lie?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:46 am to
Obama is no different than any other politician....when their lips are moving, BS is coming out.
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:47 am to
It's pretty lame editorializing, really. Krauthammer now claims lies by projecting words into Obama's mouth of the future. Obviously. the President hasn't given him enough actual material to work with.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98730 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:49 am to
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That's a weak pronouncement. Unless, is he offering this as a professional opinion? Because that would just be stupid. He can do better.


Actually, implicit in Obama's statement was/is that he was lying about everything he said up to that point.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6229 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:56 am to
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quote:
He's a pathological liar. It's pure narcissism.


When you have a base of supporters like Obama, and an adoring press, then lying is so easy and effective, that it's irresistible.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9616 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 8:00 am to
LINK =

From Victor Davis Hanson

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THE BALD LIES OF POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY
Remember the al-Qaeda-is-on-the-run 2012-election talking point? It was mostly a lie. The administration deliberately released to sympathetic journalists only those documents from the so-called Osama bin Laden trove that revealed worry and dissension among the terrorists. Then it nourished essays by pet journalists trumpeting the decline of al-Qaeda. Disturbing memos that confounded that narrative, as Weekly Standard journalist Steven F. Hayes recently noted, were kept back. “On the run” was dropped after the 2012 election, when events on the ground made such an assertion absurd.



quote:

Has anything the administration said about pulling our troops out of Iraq proven true? Was it really the Iraqis’ fault or George Bush’s? Was our leaving proof that Iraq might be one of the administration’s “great achievements”? Was the Iraq that we left without any peacekeepers really “stable”? On more than ten occasions the president bragged on the campaign trail that he alone had ended American involvement in Iraq. When Iraq predictably blew up after our departure, he snarled to reporters that he was angry that anyone would dare accuse him alone of being responsible for our precipitate departure.

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The result is that almost any time the president makes reference to the past, ours or his, we can assume two things: His facts are wrong, and they are wrong in a way that is meant to highlight his own godhead
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 8:01 am to
You really are a fricking idiot aren't you?

or an incredible troll deluxe
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 8:08 am to
Do any of you all even know what a lie is, as opposed to an opinion or statement based on subjective data?

If I say, ISIS will be crushed within the year, am I lying? How can you prove I am lying? Is that even a lie??? Idiots.

By your definition, everyone that has an opinion is a pathological liar.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9616 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 8:14 am to
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Do any of you all even know what a lie is, as opposed to an opinion or statement based on subjective data?



So, did Obama claim that he had gotten us out of Iraq all during his re-elect, then do an about face and blame Bush for the withdrawal of troops when Iraq started to fall apart as was predicted?

Oh, and did Obama not say that if Syria used chemical weapons that would be crossing a red line, and once Syria did use them claim that he wasn't the one who set the red line, the world did?
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 8:20 am to
What did the President mean when he said "Chuck, and I'm being honest now?" An educated person, taking him at face value, would interpret that to mean he was acknowledging to Chick that previously he was not honest, but his current statement to Chuck is to be believed. That was not Krauthammer projecting. That was Obama admitting.

If the President was admitting to being dishonest previously, then why should anyone expect him to be honest going forward? When I was in officer candidate school we had classes on ethics taught by a Chaplain. He said the absolutely critical characteristic for an officer is integrity. Others must have confidence that you have done what you said, or will do what you say. And one that confidence is lost you can't ever get it back. Obama has admitted to compromised integrity, and he has no right to expect anyone to believe him despite your faith in him.

Isn't it ironic that you, the supposedly rational atheist, is advocating faith in the honesty of an admittedly dishonest person?

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