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cable outlet not providing signal?
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:00 pm
I have a cable outlet in my master bedroom. It's the same as the ones in my media and living rooms that work perfectly. I have a TV running on my patio I just hooked up and it's running to a receiver in my bedroom. The cable box is in the bedroom also running to the same receiver. Everything is working except I'm getting "no signal" when I click on the input on my TV that should be the cable signal. Could it be that outlet isn't "live" for some reason?? Appreciate any help
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:32 pm to Tiger Ryno
somewhere there is a splitter that takes the outside signal & sends it to inside outlets.
If you're lucky the wires will be labeled. But if not, find the wires that aren't connected & try each one.
If you're lucky the wires will be labeled. But if not, find the wires that aren't connected & try each one.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:40 pm to Tiger Ryno
It might not be hooked up. I did this in my attic for outlets I never use to get away with smaller splitters and thus minimize signal loss.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:43 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
If its not hooked up what would that mean? Would they have to run a freaking cable all through the walls to that outlet? I assume if the outlet is there they ran cable to it.
Where would it be "unhooked"? In the attic?
Where would it be "unhooked"? In the attic?
Posted on 8/28/14 at 10:58 pm to Tiger Ryno
you don't run to all outlets because you get signal loss at each split.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:09 pm to Tigah in the ATL
Ok I think I found the problem. Went into the modem box where everything comes in in my utility room. All the cable runs there. The previous owner had direct tv. The cable wire marked "master bedroom" is running to the dtv splitter.
Problem is there is a three way splitter for cable which has my living room and media room running to it. The third split is running to the modem. So can I go buy a 4 way splitter and run everything to that?
Problem is there is a three way splitter for cable which has my living room and media room running to it. The third split is running to the modem. So can I go buy a 4 way splitter and run everything to that?
Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:10 pm to Tiger Ryno
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If its not hooked up what would that mean? Would they have to run a freaking cable all through the walls to that outlet? I assume if the outlet is there they ran cable to it.
I expect they did.
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Where would it be "unhooked"? In the attic?
Well yeah. In my attic, all the cables for the outlets converge at a single point, and they're connected to the main line into the house at that point with a splitter. If you have a two-way, the loss is 3.5 dB on each leg or half the power, a four-way would be a 7 dB loss on each leg, etc. Using smaller splitters means you degrade the signal power less. If you had so many lines the signal would be diminished to the point where it's out of spec, you'd have to add an amp, which you always want to avoid if possible.
It's just a possibility.
Posted on 8/28/14 at 11:32 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
Ok so I'm going to go buy a 4 way splitter and do this myself tomorrow. Right now I have a three way splitter going and the 2 tvs I have running off it have perfectly fine picture quality. I think a 4 way should be fine.
Do you recommend a certain brand or certain specs?
Do you recommend a certain brand or certain specs?
Posted on 8/29/14 at 12:13 am to Tiger Ryno
First off, I see you mentioned DirecTV, and I believe they use higher frequency parts than cable, and I am out of my depth there.
OTOH, if you're using Cox cable or similar, I would get this Regal splitter:
LINK
Cable companies use them, and they're considered excellent quality. Best of all, they're inexpensive. I see a bunch available on eBay. They are what I use.
Spec-wise, you need a 1 GHz splitter for digital cable.
Since you have a cable modem currently on the 3-way, it's probably getting the "good" leg of the typical unbalanced 3-way splitter. (The legs are labeled with the loss, so you can tell.) That is, if it was installed right, it's getting the -3.5 dB leg while the TVs are getting the -7 dB legs. Now if you go to a 4-way, the cable modem will be getting -7 dB loss, too, so before you do that, check the signal strength. If it's greater than -5 dB or so, I can't foresee any problem even if it's currently getting the minimum possible splitter signal loss of -3.5 dB. The 4-way would then take it down to -8.5 dB, and I think Cox wants the downstream cable modem signal to be between -10 and +10 dB. If the signal is close to those limits already, you might need to look at it a little closer. It can vary throughout the day with outside temperature, so that's something to consider as well.
OTOH, if you're using Cox cable or similar, I would get this Regal splitter:
LINK
Cable companies use them, and they're considered excellent quality. Best of all, they're inexpensive. I see a bunch available on eBay. They are what I use.
Spec-wise, you need a 1 GHz splitter for digital cable.
Since you have a cable modem currently on the 3-way, it's probably getting the "good" leg of the typical unbalanced 3-way splitter. (The legs are labeled with the loss, so you can tell.) That is, if it was installed right, it's getting the -3.5 dB leg while the TVs are getting the -7 dB legs. Now if you go to a 4-way, the cable modem will be getting -7 dB loss, too, so before you do that, check the signal strength. If it's greater than -5 dB or so, I can't foresee any problem even if it's currently getting the minimum possible splitter signal loss of -3.5 dB. The 4-way would then take it down to -8.5 dB, and I think Cox wants the downstream cable modem signal to be between -10 and +10 dB. If the signal is close to those limits already, you might need to look at it a little closer. It can vary throughout the day with outside temperature, so that's something to consider as well.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 12:23 am to Spock's Eyebrow
Thanks spock. Very informative. I think there are two options
1...go with unbalanced 4 way splitter
2. Run a 2 way to the modem and the other side to a three way splitter which runs to the tvs.
I've heard a mixed bag of recs. Splitters are relatively cheap so I'll go trial and error.
The direct tv really is inconsequential because I'm not using it. The house is wired for it and the previous owner had it. Turns put the outlet in question was still connected to it.
1...go with unbalanced 4 way splitter
2. Run a 2 way to the modem and the other side to a three way splitter which runs to the tvs.
I've heard a mixed bag of recs. Splitters are relatively cheap so I'll go trial and error.
The direct tv really is inconsequential because I'm not using it. The house is wired for it and the previous owner had it. Turns put the outlet in question was still connected to it.
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