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Pick a Side: Dollhouse, Man of Steel, Walking Dead etc.(Light Spoilers)
Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:35 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:35 am
Not a very good title, and no this isn't a "Did she drop it on purpose thread, 
But I saw Dollhouse when scrolling through Netflix the other day, it got me thinking of the show. So regardless of the overall quality of the show, the Epilogue episodes were going somewhere pretty cool. SPOILERS FOR DOLLHOUSE....
These high tech folks with Dollhouse capabilities, gaining skills at the press of a button, hunting down the, well, let's call them luddites who have rejected the technology and are trying to survive. That whole conflict was interesting, why they came about, how they came about, the kind of characters Whedon decided to put on each side. Getting to those episodes is worth watching the 2 seasons of the show, I think.
Are you a jacked up tech head or a luddite in that situation?
I'm a luddite. And I'd do the same thing in the damn singularity scenario that everyone else talks about.
Or how about Land of the Dead, are you a corporate fat cat in a tower looking down at all the peasants? Or are you a peasant? Or are you already a zombie?
Equilibrium - Be honest with yourself, are you a rebel, or part of the totalitarian order?
Me? Rebel, but I like books way too much.
Hunger Games?
Anyone, those are some weak films examples, figure there's more good ideas out there. Fire away!
Current list of Sides:
Dollhouse: Tech Head or Luddite?
Man of Steel: Superman is God or Superman is Danger?
Equilibrium: Totalitarian or Rebel?
Walking Dead: Peaceful, but scary town or underfed wandering band?
But I saw Dollhouse when scrolling through Netflix the other day, it got me thinking of the show. So regardless of the overall quality of the show, the Epilogue episodes were going somewhere pretty cool. SPOILERS FOR DOLLHOUSE....
These high tech folks with Dollhouse capabilities, gaining skills at the press of a button, hunting down the, well, let's call them luddites who have rejected the technology and are trying to survive. That whole conflict was interesting, why they came about, how they came about, the kind of characters Whedon decided to put on each side. Getting to those episodes is worth watching the 2 seasons of the show, I think.
Are you a jacked up tech head or a luddite in that situation?
I'm a luddite. And I'd do the same thing in the damn singularity scenario that everyone else talks about.
Or how about Land of the Dead, are you a corporate fat cat in a tower looking down at all the peasants? Or are you a peasant? Or are you already a zombie?
Equilibrium - Be honest with yourself, are you a rebel, or part of the totalitarian order?
Me? Rebel, but I like books way too much.
Hunger Games?
Anyone, those are some weak films examples, figure there's more good ideas out there. Fire away!
Current list of Sides:
Dollhouse: Tech Head or Luddite?
Man of Steel: Superman is God or Superman is Danger?
Equilibrium: Totalitarian or Rebel?
Walking Dead: Peaceful, but scary town or underfed wandering band?
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 9:01 am
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:42 am to Freauxzen
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Dollhouse
The only example in existence of a Joss Whedon project where the premise is actually better than the execution.
Tech head here.
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Equilibrium
Rebel
Man of Steel - Would you be a citizen who viewed Superman as a hero or an unknown who's potential threat outweighed his good intentions?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:46 am to Green Chili Tiger
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The only example in existence of a Joss Whedon project where the premise is actually better than the execution.
Sadly, yes.
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Tech head here.
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Would you be a citizen who viewed Superman as a hero or an unknown who's potential threat outweighed his good intentions?
At least from the perspective of Man of Steel solely. In this situation you have to take off your 60 years of Supes history, which is tough. But some guy destroying a city because of people like him chasing him? Yeah not a good start, he'd have a ton to prove.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:47 am to Freauxzen
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In this situation you have to take off your 60 years of Supes history, which is tough. But some guy destroying a city because of people like him chasing him? Yeah not a good start, he'd have a ton to prove.
This could be fun. I'm racking my brain trying to think of more conflicts.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 8:52 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:55 am to Green Chili Tiger
There's always Walking Dead..
Do you join a town of crazy folk like Cannibals or under a dictator like the governor?
Or do you wander the land, less hopeful, but free...? Or do you start your own ricktatorship?
ETA: Hopefully better advertising in the title...
Do you join a town of crazy folk like Cannibals or under a dictator like the governor?
Or do you wander the land, less hopeful, but free...? Or do you start your own ricktatorship?
ETA: Hopefully better advertising in the title...
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 8:56 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:56 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Man of Steel - Would you be a citizen who viewed Superman as a hero or an unknown who's potential threat outweighed his good intentions?
I'd look at him as a doomsday scenario who nearly doomed the planet, and could make nuclear weapons irrelevant.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:13 am to OMLandshark
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I'd look at him as a doomsday scenario who nearly doomed the planet, and could make nuclear weapons irrelevant.
Dr. Manhattan like
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:21 am to Freauxzen
quote:
At least from the perspective of Man of Steel solely. In this situation you have to take off your 60 years of Supes history, which is tough. But some guy destroying a city because of people like him chasing him? Yeah not a good start, he'd have a ton to prove.
And then he holds the planet hostage at the end...
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:30 am to Freauxzen
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Do you join a town of crazy folk like Cannibals or under a dictator like the governor?
Or do you wander the land, less hopeful, but free...? Or do you start your own ricktatorship?
Too many factors to consider to say for sure. Are my kids with me? Then there is definitely a need for "safety in numbers". How well is the dictatorship disguised? (The governor did a great job of putting on a show of "community")
Sorry if the thread gets derailed by Man of Steel.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:39 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Too many factors to consider to say for sure. Are my kids with me? Then there is definitely a need for "safety in numbers". How well is the dictatorship disguised? (The governor did a great job of putting on a show of "community")
Disguised. He did get a whole bunch of people to raise up against the prison. Would you fall for that? quote:
Sorry if the thread gets derailed by Man of Steel.
No, that one is actually good. And depending on what they do with BvS it could be better.
I was hoping MoS in the title would draw others, but no go. Still need a better title, maybe people just don't get it.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 9:55 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:51 am to Freauxzen
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He did get a whole bunch of people to raise up against the prison. Would you fall for that?
No. I would have been out of there (if possible) after the first night of Zombie death match.
Here's another:
If you and your loved ones were on one of the ferries in The Dark Knight, would you have detonated the other ferry?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:34 am to Freauxzen
I'm with you on Dollhouse, When in doubt, I side with the Luddites. People who worship at the altar of tech scare me, and I find their morality to be askew (their idea that it is right to steal from artists pisses me off - they place no value on artists, demeaning them as "content producers")
Walking Dead is a bit different as I don't really like either group, but I would totally want to stay in one place and build a new community. I'd be clearly against going to invade the prison, that was just insane. Let another community exist and eventually we'll open up trade routes and the such... the zombies are not that much of a threat if you have strong perimeter and solid community. I'd lean towards the Governor, as I'm not down with living in the Ricktatorship either and his series of awful, rash decisions. Both options are bad, but I have a more positive view of humanity and think its possible to build a good community not run by an insane power hungry douchebag.
To be honest, I'd probably murder Rick in his sleep. That guy is f'n dangerous.
Walking Dead is a bit different as I don't really like either group, but I would totally want to stay in one place and build a new community. I'd be clearly against going to invade the prison, that was just insane. Let another community exist and eventually we'll open up trade routes and the such... the zombies are not that much of a threat if you have strong perimeter and solid community. I'd lean towards the Governor, as I'm not down with living in the Ricktatorship either and his series of awful, rash decisions. Both options are bad, but I have a more positive view of humanity and think its possible to build a good community not run by an insane power hungry douchebag.
To be honest, I'd probably murder Rick in his sleep. That guy is f'n dangerous.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:46 am to Freauxzen
24: on Jack Bauer's side as opposed to being dead
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:49 am to Green Chili Tiger
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If you and your loved ones were on one of the ferries in The Dark Knight, would you have detonated the other ferry?
No, I wouldn't know whether the joker was telling the truth. Could be my own ferry I'm blowing up.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 10:52 am to Baloo
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I'm with you on Dollhouse, When in doubt, I side with the Luddites. People who worship at the altar of tech scare me, and I find their morality to be askew
Exactly.
Her was almost a horror film
(A good one mind you, great movie) And then you have to consider something like I, Robot, again, poor film, but interesting concept, especially at the end.
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Walking Dead is a bit different as I don't really like either group, but I would totally want to stay in one place and build a new community. I'd be clearly against going to invade the prison, that was just insane. Let another community exist and eventually we'll open up trade routes and the such... the zombies are not that much of a threat if you have strong perimeter and solid community. I'd lean towards the Governor, as I'm not down with living in the Ricktatorship either and his series of awful, rash decisions. Both options are bad, but I have a more positive view of humanity and think its possible to build a good community not run by an insane power hungry douchebag.
Agree.
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To be honest, I'd probably murder Rick in his sleep. That guy is f'n dangerous.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:40 pm to John McClane
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No, I wouldn't know whether the joker was telling the truth. Could be my own ferry I'm blowing up.
This. He was completely untrustworthy.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:53 pm to Baloo
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People who worship at the altar of tech scare me, and I find their morality to be askew (their idea that it is right to steal from artists pisses me off - they place no value on artists, demeaning them as "content producers")
damn. the way we interact with media is due specifically to the work (right or wrong) done by the napters & limewires and torrents of the world.
so you'd rather everyone 'play by the rules' and never push for change?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:59 pm to CAD703X
I don't want to turn this into a thread about this, but I think there's a way to move forward and change without fricking over artists at every turn, and feeling that we are entitled to all art immediately at no cost. If you are not a patron, actually giving hard earned cash to the artist to support their endeavors, you get precisely zero voice in what the artists does and how he/she distributes it.
I have no problem with change. I have plenty of problems with the entitled attitude of consumers who want everything and don't want to pay for it. Artists need to get paid or they will stop making art. They have to pay rent, too.
I have no problem with change. I have plenty of problems with the entitled attitude of consumers who want everything and don't want to pay for it. Artists need to get paid or they will stop making art. They have to pay rent, too.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:45 pm to Baloo
well this thread didnt go as planned
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:52 pm to CAD703X
Tough concept to get across.
I just really think Dollhouse was one of those dystopias that lent itself to a lot of discussion.
I just really think Dollhouse was one of those dystopias that lent itself to a lot of discussion.
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