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I don't understand The Shining and Chinatown. Spoilers.

Posted on 8/16/14 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Amazing Moves
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 4:01 pm
Would someone explain these 2 movies to me? Thanks.

A few things.. The old picture at the end of the shining.

Chinatown.. Still don't understand most of it.

So please explain what happens in both. Thanks.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 4:03 pm to
you kidding?
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 4:05 pm to
Chinatown is basically the story of a smart arse PI (Nicholosn) uncovering just how fricked up the big and rich people in LA can be. It's discovered at the end that Noah Cross (the ultra rich and powerful guy) is trying to shut his daughter (Faye Dunaway) up about the fact that her daughter (Katherine) is also his daughter. In other words, Cross fricked his own daughter and now he wants his other dusghter/grandaughter for himself. Dunaway's character was trying to protect her but the police killed her and there is nothing anyone can do to stop Cross.
Posted by Birdie King
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by Nativebullet
Natchez, MS
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 4:11 pm to
LINK

This is pretty interesting take on the photo.
Posted by Amazing Moves
Member since Jan 2014
6044 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 4:24 pm to
Gotcha. That's what I thought. Also the PI repeated the same mistake he did in his past regret from working Chinatown. He tried to protect a girl and she still got hurt.

Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 4:38 pm to
Yeah, Chinatown is pretty straightforward while The Shining is one of those things that's open to interpretation.

Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 4:39 pm to
Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 4:58 pm to
Forget it, Amazing Moves. It's Chinatown
Posted by Amazing Moves
Member since Jan 2014
6044 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 5:08 pm to
Got it
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 5:12 pm to
May people died at the hotel. He was the newest addition.

The hotel owns him forever now.
Posted by Amazing Moves
Member since Jan 2014
6044 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 5:20 pm to
Ok. That's what I suspected also. The 1921 threw me off.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 5:20 pm to
I didn't care too much for Chinatown. I thought it was pretty slow. Very disappointing.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

I'm sorry to differ with you sir, but you are the caretaker. You've always been the caretaker. I should know sir - I've always been here.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 5:28 pm to
Could be reincarnation too, and forever he is being drawn back to the hotel to kill. Either way, hotel owns him
Posted by Amazing Moves
Member since Jan 2014
6044 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:03 pm to
Cool

Another question.. Why was King at odds with Kubrick on the film?
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:12 pm to
No one understands The Shining. (apart from cabin-fever, abusive-husband, ability to read minds and murder and ghosts and snow and an axe.)

Everything else is just subtext gibberish.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39195 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:23 pm to
It would take months to fully understand The Shining, if its even possible. I've watched a bunch of documentaries on it and I'm sure there's still more to learn.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63517 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:37 pm to
Not trying to pick a fight, but I don't understand how anyone wouldn't recognize Chinatown as a classic. One of the best screenplays to make it tto film.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

It would take months to fully understand The Shining, if its even possible. I've watched a bunch of documentaries on it and I'm sure there's still more to learn.



I don't think it's possible. I'm skeptical that there was some huge meaning (guess I'm agreeing with zamroro) It seems like a bunch of sort-of-themes/clues were strung together and left up to the audience to make their own interpretation.

IMHO, it can't be reincarnation because the last guy killed his family only a decade or so previously so it looks to be some sort of possession going on.
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