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Apparently the movie boom isn't helping.

Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:45 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:45 pm

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La. budget shortfall pegged at $1.2B for next year

Louisiana state lawmakers got their first glimpse today of next year's budget gap that they'll have to close, and The Associated Press reports it's another hefty shortfall: $1.2 billion. The grim news, delivered to the joint legislative budget committee, barely raised eyebrows at the committee hearing, after more than six years of such disappointing financial forecasts. The shortfall is projected for the 2015-16 fiscal year that begins on July 1 next year. Gov. Bobby Jindal and lawmakers will decide in next year's legislative session how to address the hole. Barry Dusse, director of the governor's Office of Planning and Budget, told the committee that the administration is devising ways to close the gap. "We already have started working on solutions for next year," he said. "We're well on our way to solving this shortfall." Dusse said the administration expects the state's revenue forecast to improve, providing millions of new dollars for spending. He also said state agencies will save more than $200 million next year from the recommendations of consultants with Alvarez & Marsal, a New York-based firm that was hired to find ways to cut state costs. Budget committee Chairman Jim Fannin, R-Jonesboro, was skeptical. "I don't see anything that gives us any indication that there's a tremendous amount of growth that we can expect over the next three years" in state finances, he told Dusse. Jindal and lawmakers used $991 million in patchwork financing to balance this year's $24.6 billion budget that won't be available the following year for spending, according to the nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Office.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:01 pm to
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La. budget shortfall


Is the purpose of the movie boom to help the state government or help the people of the state?
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3059 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:03 pm to
The budget needs to be slashed further
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:36 pm to
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Is the purpose of the movie boom to help the state government or help the people of the state?
The problem with your question is that the state government represents all of the people of Louisiana, and all of the people of Louisiana do not benefit from the film tax credits, just some of the people. Benefitting some of the people at the expense of others is not a good purpose.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36054 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:39 pm to
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Is the purpose of the movie boom to help the state government or help the people of the state?


If the state doesn't have enough revenues, and has to cut the budget; I have no problem with that at all.

And one of the things to cut out is the Film Tax Credit program and other superfluous programs.

It is better than raising taxes on the population as a whole, and it's better than cutting vital services.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:48 pm to
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It is better than raising taxes on the population as a whole, and it's better than cutting vital services.
I agree 100%. There is no question that taking away subsidies that distort the economics of an industry for the benefit of a few is the best place to begin balancing the budget. Let their industry sink or swim competing on the same playing field as other industries must.

Does Louisiana need to eliminate the Film Tax Credit program entirely? I think it should be given serious consideration. There may be a level at which the credits actually are a net positive to the state. But you would have to provide some solid numerical evidence to convince me where that level is. I don't think trying to find it by trail and error is a good idea.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5344 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 5:18 pm to
There is no need to raise taxes. What we need is a government that has a clue about efficiency. I have yet to see one government agency that is efficiently run. Why give more money to an institution that refuse to adopt efficiency strategies?
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10667 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 5:24 pm to
I thought tax cuts were supposed to lead to budget surpluses according to Reagan and Laffler. Isn't Piyush just doing what Reagan would have done?

So if tax cuts haven't lead to increased revenues what is the answer? The point of supply-side economics was that you weren't going to have to cut government services because revenues were supposed to increase since tax cuts were going to simulate the economy.

I thought you conservatives promised that.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36054 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 5:29 pm to
Uh taxes have increased. Not at the state level but everywhere else.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 5:33 pm to
One would think with the influx of business and jobs that we would be seeing a dropping deficit. Is spending increasing faster than tax revenues or is something else happening?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21273 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:10 pm to
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And one of the things to cut out is the Film Tax Credit program and other superfluous programs.

It is better than raising taxes on the population as a whole, and it's better than cutting vital services.


Careful saying that on this board.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71426 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:13 pm to
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I thought tax cuts were supposed to lead to budget surpluses according to Reagan and Laffler. Isn't Piyush just doing what Reagan would have done?



Not really
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21273 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:16 pm to
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Isn't Piyush just doing what Reagan would have done?



Reagan was a real leader. Whether you agreed with him are not, you knew where he stood. Jindal...not so much. Not so much at all.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10667 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:25 pm to
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Uh taxes have increased. Not at the state level but everywhere else.


Since Piyush is all about cutting state taxes shouldn't state tax revenue increased instead of showing a deficit?



Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:08 pm to
How much does the state of Louisiana collect in income taxes? How much does the state of Louisiana spend? Why must the deficit be attributed to income tax revenue and not to revenue from other taxes?

A deficit occurs because you spend beyond your means. If you know that your means are a certain amount, then spending in excess of that amount is a spending problem, not a revenue problem.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7873 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:11 pm to
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Apparently the movie boom isn't helping.



Apparently, IB is not around.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:32 pm to
I agree that the film subsidies are against free market principles and are generally bad (overall) for the state's finances.

I also agree that there's historically a problem with the budgets and I think to some extent it is done on purpose in order to circumvent the legislative budget process.

However, it should be noted that the current fiscal year just started and this shortfall is for the NEXT fiscal year which won't even start for another 10.5 months. Plenty of time to make adjustments during the 2015 legislative session. The real pain is when mid-year budget cuts occur.

Also, I can't stand it when people refer to Jindal as "Piyush." Jindal's name is irrelevant to me. Just makes people look like backwoods idiots when they bring up his Indian (dot) background.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98863 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:35 pm to
State should just eliminate all Medicaid.

That will take care of it.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10667 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:42 pm to
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Also, I can't stand it when people refer to Jindal as "Piyush." Jindal's name is irrelevant to me. Just makes people look like backwoods idiots when they bring up his Indian (dot) background.


Well that is legal name. He has no problem telling people he choose Bobby after Bobby Brady in an attempt to fit in.

I will stop calling him Piyush when Bill Cunningham and other conservatives stop saying Barrack Hussein Obama or BHO.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 8:43 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21273 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:47 pm to
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Also, I can't stand it when people refer to Jindal as "Piyush." Jindal's name is irrelevant to me. Just makes people look like backwoods idiots when they bring up his Indian (dot) background.



This. I've made it clear on here that I'm not a fan of Jindal. In fact, I flat out dislike the way his administration has behaved and how he has acted like a flat-out coward on several issues.

That said, when someone starts out their complaint about Jindal using Piyush, I immediately stop reading.
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