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The US will not conduct a rescue on Sinjar Mt.

Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:23 am
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:23 am
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The United States military has concluded that there are too few Yazidi refugees still trapped in the mountains of northern Iraq to warrant mounting a potentially risky rescue, the Pentagon said



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“The team has assessed that there far fewer Yazidis on Mount Sinjar than previously feared, in part because of the success of the humanitarian air drops, airstrikes on ISIL targets, the efforts of the peshmerga and the ability of thousands of Yazidis to evacuate from the mountain each night over the last several days,” the statement said. “The Yazidis who remain are in better condition than previously believed and continue to have access to the food and water we have dropped.”


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The decision that no rescue mission is required now will not affect other U.S. military operations intended to blunt the Islamic State’s ability to engage Kurdish militia near Irbil, where the U.S. maintains a consulate, a CIA station and a joint military operations center.

The Pentagon announced that it had conducted a total of 24 air strikes on Islamic State targets since Friday.

Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:26 am to
Hopefully those poor souls can make it to safety.
The ones that haven't been beheaded of course.
Posted by Semaphore
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:29 am to
Will it end as a modern Masada?
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:33 am to
Sounds like they've cleared out the area enough that the folks up there can finally get off.

FOX had a heartbreaking report on UK helicopters delivering food and taking people off. One of the helicopters was so overloaded with people that it crashed, killing the pilot and several of the refugees.

Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:17 am to
Good news that there are no longer tens of thousands up besieged up there.

I note that the US State Dept is taking full credit for the Obama Administration in breaking the siege.
That's the topic for another thread, but, it's obvious that the Regime wants full credit for all that is good and will blame Republicans for all that is bad.

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:40 am to
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I note that the US State Dept is taking full credit for the Obama Administration in breaking the siege.


Oh yeah, that article was lavishing the administration with praise. And while the airstrikes most likely did help break the siege. There is still a lot of work to be done. Not to mention figuring out what our desired endstate for Iraq is.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:58 am to
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FOX had a heartbreaking report on UK helicopters delivering food and taking people off. One of the helicopters was so overloaded with people that it crashed, killing the pilot and several of the refugees.



You sure it wasn't Iraqi AF helo's bc thats everything i've seen. Nothing on the news about any brits dying here.

Even the door gunner on the helo was shooting at IS with refuguees on board.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:00 am to
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And while the airstrikes most likely did help break the siege. There is still a lot of work to be done.


Unless we fly some B-52's over and carpet bomb them ISIS will still be on the move
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:10 am to
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that there far fewer Yazidis on Mount Sinjar than previously feared, in part because of the success of the humanitarian air drops, airstrikes on ISIL targets, the efforts of the peshmerga and the ability of thousands of Yazidis to evacuate from the mountain


It's my understanding that the Turkish Kurds were the ones who freed the bulk of them (45k out of 50k) no?
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:11 am to
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You sure it wasn't Iraqi AF helo's bc thats everything i've seen. Nothing on the news about any brits dying here. Even the door gunner on the helo was shooting at IS with refuguees on board.


It was an Iraqi army helo with a NYT reporter injured. Crash killed the Iraqi pilot
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:20 am to
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I note that the US State Dept is taking full credit for the Obama Administration in breaking the siege.
That's the topic for another thread, but, it's obvious that the Regime wants full credit for all that is good and will blame Republicans for all that is bad.

Should Obama not get credit for some of the success? I mean, he is the one who ordered the air strikes and humanitarian drops to help out the Yazidi.

ETA: While other nations, and the Iraqi AF, may be the ones who are actually evacuating the Yazidi that wouldn't be possible without the airstrikes that softened the ISIL siege.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 10:21 am
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:34 am to
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Even the door gunner on the helo was shooting at IS with refuguees on board.




I have to wonder whether the fact that rescue helos have already taken enemy ground fire is the main reason why Obama is cancelling plans for rescue.

And if the rescue helos have already taken enemy ground fire, then, I wonder if the reason why there are fewer people needing rescue is that many have been shot dead by ISIL.

I doubt that the Obama Admin will give us all of the facts, because, completely informing the public has never been their strong suit. Using, shaping and twisting information for their own political benefit is their strong suit.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:56 am to
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I have to wonder whether the fact that rescue helos have already taken enemy ground fire is the main reason why Obama is cancelling plans for rescue. 



I doubt it. There were 30,000 something civilians up there. We wouldn't have moved them by helicopter anyway except for maybe the elderly and wounded. What would have most likely happened is we would have facilitated their withdrawal from the mountain by opening up a corridor. Mostly with special forces and Peshmerga troops and provided air support. There would have been US Troops and doctors waiting for at a safe zone to receive them.
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