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Old computer freezing question

Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:01 am
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:01 am
We have an old (2007, I think) computer... running XP... 500 gig HD, 2 gig of ram... kids play games and stuff on it. About a year ago, it just froze, and would freeze a couple minutes after booting up every time. Turned it off, unplugged it, opened it up, unplugged everything and plugged everything back in... worked perfectly until last night. Did the same about 6 months later, then again last night... froze up, and would freeze couple minutes after booting up, until I turned it off, unplugged it, opened it up, unplugged everything and plugged it back up. Now it works again. Even left it on all night and copied The Avengers DVD just to see if it would do it without freezing. It did. What could be going on?
Posted by ChuckM
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2006
1645 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:06 am to
Check the CPU fan, make sure its turning and doesn't have a chunk of dust bunnies in it.

Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78086 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:08 am to
bad RAM possibly. its only freezing up once it fills up memory to the point it hits the bad sectors.

try running memory tester(?) i think..you can boot it off a USB stick and it will take probably 6-8 hours but should go through your RAM completely & diagnose problems.

if its a RAM issue, that's a cheap fix to buy a different chip.

ETA if you have another PC with good RAM, swap it and see if that helps..might be easier than running that RAM test.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9348 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:12 am to
RAM

Windows Updates
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35557 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:15 am to
It's 7 years old. Shoot it and get a new one.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:17 am to
quote:

try running memory tester(?) i think..you can boot it off a USB stick and it will take probably 6-8 hours but should go through your RAM completely & diagnose problems.


I will try that. Thanks.

I sort of thought converting a dvd from 8 or whatever down to 4 gigs would stress it, guess I thought wrong.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78086 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:41 am to
quote:

I sort of thought converting a dvd from 8 or whatever down to 4 gigs would stress it, guess I thought wrong


windows is freaking weird how it handles physical memory and paged memory.

but the one constant is the longer your computer is on..the more physical memory will get eaten

particulary true if you leave a browser or outlook open..come back 2 hours later and its consumed like 800MB.
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Check the CPU fan, make sure its turning and doesn't have a chunk of dust bunnies in it.


This. A friend's computer did the same thing. I vacuumed and dusted everything, especially the air vents and fans. I unseated and reseated everything, with emphasis on the memory sticks. That helped a lot but it still froze. Just not as often.

I could see the cpu fan turning, although not very fast. I could feel very little air coming out of the back of the unit.

I had to undo the four screws holding the cpu fan and remove it to see a film of dust blocking the airflow over the cpu. I cleaned that up and the overheating problems stopped!

Make sure you ground yourself before touching anything inside the case. This will discharge any static electricity buildup in your body. Touch the metal chassis and try to leave a finger against the chassis all the time you are in there!
Posted by ChuckM
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2006
1645 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

dust blocking the airflow over the cpu.


This happens a good bit in industrial environments and its quite often completely overlooked. Easy fix.
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