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Eastern Bishops demand Muslims issue fatwas condemning ISIS, etc.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:38 pm
Your move, "moderate Islam"
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The bishops of Oriental Churches on Thursday demanded Muslim religious authorities to issue fatwas banning attacks against Christians and “other innocents” in the East, urging also parties financing terrorist organizations “to immediately stop arming” these extremist groups.
“We call on Muslim religious authorities, Sunnis and Shiites, to issue fatwas banning attacks against Christians and other innocents,” Beirut Maronite Bishop Boulos Matar said after a congregation of the bishops of Oriental Churches at Diman, Maronite Patriarch Beshara al-Rahi's summer seat.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:39 pm to TN Bhoy
This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:43 pm to TN Bhoy
wont happen Moderate Muslims are terrified of their own religious extrememist so they usually say nothing of any media prominence or real value in the discussion.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:46 pm to Cruiserhog
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wont happen Moderate Muslims are terrified of their own religious extrememist so they usually say nothing of any media prominence or real value in the discussion.
Yep
Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:47 pm to TN Bhoy
Good strategy, but this will never happen. It would be like our crooked politicians conceeding they are crooks. This anger and hatred of the West, Jews and Christians is their life force.
A few might do it, but 98 percent will just ignore this.
A few might do it, but 98 percent will just ignore this.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:47 pm to TN Bhoy
Won't happen for numerous reasons. Nor would it do anything.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:55 pm to crazy4lsu
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Nor would it do anything.
These are the same people who mocked the 'bring our girls home' movement that was meant simply to bring attention to creeping Islamic fanaticism in Northern Nigeria.
Even Al Queada disavows/condemns the actions of ISIS against minority religions/groups , but it hasn't stopped them.
Just another attempt at Islamaphobes to attack .
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:00 pm to sugar71
quote:Link? I know they are terrified of ISIS,
Even Al Queada disavows/condemns the actions of ISIS against minority religions/groups , but it hasn't stopped them.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:10 pm to sugar71
Well it wouldn't do anything because Islam isn't a monolithic group. In the Sunni sect, there are four major schools of jurisprudence, and each have their centers which would issue fatwas. ISIS is a Salafi group, and they would have no reason to take anything said by anyone other than someone in that movement seriously. As for Shias, the Ayatollah's in Iran and Iraq can issue fatwas, but ISIS and other Jihadist groups that developed from the Salafi's, Deobindi's, and followers of Sayyid Qutb have no reason to take those opinions seriously.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:19 pm to crazy4lsu
The symbolism of a fataw from any/each would be huge.
Unless the silence is because the rest of the Muslim world is secretly cheering ISIS on.
Unless the silence is because the rest of the Muslim world is secretly cheering ISIS on.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:23 pm to sugar71
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Just another attempt at Islamaphobes to attack .
Oh that's it, the poor smelly rug riders have a PR problem. Give me a fricking break.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 3:31 pm to Gray Tiger
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The symbolism of a fataw from any/each would be huge.
To you. It is mostly meaningless for the reasons I've already explained. There might be someone who will issue a fatwa, but it will be ignored.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:07 pm to crazy4lsu
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To you. It is mostly meaningless for the reasons I've already explained. There might be someone who will issue a fatwa, but it will be ignored.
That's not the point. The silence is deafening. That in itself is a strong symbol. It implies approval.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:30 pm to Gray Tiger
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It implies approval.
Only to the West. If you don't think nearly everyone is worried about the Salafi's then you are off your rocker. The Iranians have a school dedicated to dealing with their arguments. I believe it is in Qom. That is much more meaningful than any fatwa.
But would the West listen to a fatwa unless it was something that relation to them? No one ever mentions the 600 page fatwa released in 2010 condemning Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. No one in the West believed Khamenei when he released a fatwa condemning the production of nuclear weapons in 2005. And now you think a fatwa will do anything, even symbolically.
The first time anyone in the West heard of a fatwa was Khomeini's against Rushdie, and suddenly people think it is some sort of binding opinion. It doesn't mean anything if people don't take whoever issues it seriously. Since there is no organization in the Islamic world that every Muslim takes seriously, a fatwa will do nothing. You can insist upon it all you want, but reality is reality.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:37 pm to crazy4lsu
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Only to the West.
So what you are saying is that ISIS presents a threat to only the West?
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:46 pm to Gray Tiger
No not at all. There are plenty of reasons for Muslim groups in a lot of countries to be concerned. But issuing non-binding fatwas that are the equivalent of judicial opinions is not going to do anything. Shias are not going to take any fatwa issued from al-Azhar University seriously. The Salafi's wouldn't either. Nor would any Sunni take a fatwa issued from Shia ayatollah's seriously. ISIS is a massive threat, but issuing fatwas will not do anything in a realistic way.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:47 pm to TN Bhoy
I would demand something of Eastern Bishops but I'm not allowed here on TD.
Sad.
Sad.
Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:07 pm to TN Bhoy
I imagine the fatwas have the same results as hashtags?
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