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Article: "Putin wants Eastern Ukraine. Let him have it"

Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:54 am
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16715 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:54 am
I first saw this title and was like, WTF? It makes some interesting points however. Here's an excerpt:

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As Vladislav Inozemtsev, director of the Centre for Post-Industrial Studies in Moscow and a visiting fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, argued in March, taking Eastern Ukraine would actually hurt Russia. It would force Moscow to pay billions in subsidies to regional governments that are currently covered by Kiev.

“In seeking Ukraine’s eastern regions, Russia is fighting for an unjust cause in political terms — and a wrong one in economic terms. Lenin wrote that politics is the most concentrated expression of economics,” Inozemtsev wrote. “If Vladimir Putin were to heed Lenin, he would see that integrating eastern Ukraine and Crimea into Russia, or their emergence as quasi-autonomous client states, would cost Moscow tens of billions each year in subsidies and create competition with Russian metal-processing, chemical, tourist and other businesses.”

At the same time Putin would become even more isolated from the international community. His aggression would also likely lead European countries, which are spending less on defense, to reevaluate these decisions.

Edward Goldberg, a professor at Baruch College and the New York University Center for Global Affairs, said nothing has changed since March. By every standard of rational interests, invading Ukraine is a mistake for Moscow.

“Even if he gets Eastern Ukraine, what has he won?” Goldberg asked. “He will have pushed western Ukraine into the arms of the EU. He will have brought NATO back to life. He will have re-invigorated Germany as a power -- the major thing Russia has feared since the end of World War II -- and he will restart the debate of exporting American energy to the EU, something he does not want to happen.”



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This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 10:57 am
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4280 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:03 am to
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His aggression would also likely lead European countries, which are spending less on defense, to reevaluate these decisions


Yeah no. It will cause them to clamor for more military backing from us. Europeans get it easy, they get to bad mouth us for over militarization from one side of their mouth, and beg us (or the UN, which is us) with the other side of their mouth.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:10 am to
I say we take every opportunity to penalize Russia for its aggression. But if by "let them have it" you mean "don't even dream of intervening militarily", I'm all for it.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16715 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:12 am to
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It will cause them to clamor for more military backing from us


Thats debatable. If nothing else, Obama's "retreat" from being the single global military leader has forced other nations to question US military support (Poland's PM for example).
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 11:14 am
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