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Thousands of convictions in doubt as FBI forensics folly exposed
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:55 pm
including several inmates who have already been executed 
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This post was edited on 8/4/14 at 8:02 pm
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:58 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Link?
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
my bad, clicked image instead of link
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Better 
This post was edited on 8/4/14 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Wasn't there an FBI crime lab scandal a couple of decades ago? WTF
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:03 pm to tysonslefthook
it works now killer
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:07 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
The district attorney later threw out of the charges when it became clear they were based entirely on Gonzalez being Facebook friends with the victim, and having a name that could be plausibly shortened to Richie.
I know the charges were dropped and all, which is fantastic obviously, but it seems like whoever filed those charges in the first place on such nonexistent evidence should face some sort of punishment. Other than a slap on the wrist and a reprimand.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:39 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Thousands of wrongful deaths as DHHS forensics folly exposed
Future headline.
Future headline.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:41 pm to tysonslefthook
Great article. Reinforces the fact that we shouldn't have the death penalty.
And, this worth pointing out:
There were some on this board who saw no error on the cop's part. They slammed the deceased for not shutting up and letting the officers perform an illegal arrest.
And, this worth pointing out:
quote:
-The chokehold-induced arrest and subsequent death of Eric Garner at the hands of the NYPD provoked scads of outrages and media attention. On Friday, the coroner who autopsied Garner officially ruled his July 17 demise a homicide. So the chokehold, a maneuver which has been against NYPD policy since 1993, caused the death of 43-year-old Garner after all (so did being pressed facedown on the sidewalk, which isn’t surprising if you watch the video, or listen to Garner’s muffled cries that he is unable to breathe.) Officer Daniel Pantaleo has his gun and badge taken soon after the incident. Whether the local DA is willing to bring charges against him remains to be seen.
There were some on this board who saw no error on the cop's part. They slammed the deceased for not shutting up and letting the officers perform an illegal arrest.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 9:06 pm to FalseProphet
What was illegal about it?
Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:18 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
The manner in which it was conducted. The safety of the individual arrested is important during the process. Using a technique that has been barred from use by the Dept for nearly 20 years and as well as holding him face down to the concrete.
Now because one officer wanted to play the part of deranged power tripping police officer, a man is dead. And now that officer should be brought up on charges of first degree murder. And now the tax payer has to cover the money the city will most definitely lose in the wrongful death lawsuit.
Now because one officer wanted to play the part of deranged power tripping police officer, a man is dead. And now that officer should be brought up on charges of first degree murder. And now the tax payer has to cover the money the city will most definitely lose in the wrongful death lawsuit.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 1:00 am to FalseProphet
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Whether the local DA is willing to bring charges against him remains to be seen.
I'm going to bet no
Posted on 8/5/14 at 1:05 am to Draconian Sanctions
It's kinda hard not to when the cause of death is listed as homicide...
At the very least, the DA will take it the grand jury to insulate himself.
At the very least, the DA will take it the grand jury to insulate himself.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 1:09 am to Draconian Sanctions
That article was poorly written. Bite marks analysis was discontinued over a decade ago. So I guess that the forensic technique in question is the hair (and fiber?) matching analysis. Is the technique used simply unreliable, or is there some misapplication or some intentional manipulation by the crime lab? The article doesn't say.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 1:16 am to Draconian Sanctions
I've been on the prosecuting side (albeit briefly) - it's full of whimsy, politics, little attention to facts and over-worked lawyers going through the motions saying the company/state line. And the cops will say anything on the stand if the DA says so.
You are playing a role - the role of the state...and everyone is guilty...according to them...nothing more. It's a win game.
And jail is the elixir and money-maker.
"Everyone in this country should and deserves to spend some time in jail" - were the first words the DA said to me upon appointment.
We imprison more people on earth than any country.
The Innocence Project is a godsend to this country...exposing the fallacy of "justice."
You are playing a role - the role of the state...and everyone is guilty...according to them...nothing more. It's a win game.
And jail is the elixir and money-maker.
"Everyone in this country should and deserves to spend some time in jail" - were the first words the DA said to me upon appointment.
We imprison more people on earth than any country.
The Innocence Project is a godsend to this country...exposing the fallacy of "justice."
Posted on 8/5/14 at 1:27 am to Zamoro10
quote:
"Everyone in this country should and deserves to spend some time in jail" - were the first words the DA said to me upon appointment.
Wow, that's pretty scary
Posted on 8/5/14 at 6:43 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Again, the problem is not forensics. The problem is prosecutorial deceit.
defendants were generally not informed—even as prosecutors frequently were.
The problem is prosecutorial deceit without consequence. What will happen to those prosecutors? Not one damn thing. They should each be disciplined. In extreme cases, they should be disbarred and imprisoned.
How can the legal profession just sit by while this type thing goes on?
Posted on 8/5/14 at 7:28 am to Zamoro10
quote:
I've been on the prosecuting side (albeit briefly) - it's full of whimsy, politics, little attention to facts and over-worked lawyers going through the motions saying the company/state line. And the cops will say anything on the stand if the DA says so.
You left out the part how the same thing happens on the other side. Both sides engage in high drama, exaggeration, and a willingness to have witnesses say whatever the lead legal figure on either side expresses confidence in saying. If you want witnesses who were never on the scene to suddenly show up for court insisting the authorities were lying, such a thing can be easily done. The accused can easily be transformed into the victim with sufficient propaganda.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 7:49 am to Willie Stroker
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You left out the part how the same thing happens on the other side.
Probably for the best since that whole innocent until proven guilty thing went out the window a long time ago.
Now, it's mostly accused = guilty in the minds of most jurors.
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